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		<title>By: Sue Ann Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Ann Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>Those {{{}}} are hugs, btw&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sue Ann Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Ann Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 01:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>{{tobie}} } }...

ANY and ALL expressions of &quot;exclusive&quot; are nothing more then illusions.

There is NO....nothing...nada...zip....zero Spiritual Understanding and Essence present, when such attitudes are being expressed.

All That Is &lt;em&gt;means&lt;/em&gt; All That Is.

Not just &quot;some&quot;.

All of our ideas about an &quot;exclusive anything&quot;, like the idea of a &quot;gated heaven&quot; are products of our emotional issues.  Most especially those we have not dealt with.

&quot;Sensitivity&quot; brings AWARENESS, not &quot;boohoo, the world is such a coarse place for my &quot;refined&quot;  *coughcough* &#039;sensitivities&#039;.  All the &quot;protect me from all the hurt in the world&quot; is, is a cry of being intensely AFRAID.   Simply a desire of needing a &#039;safe&#039; place indicates we do NOT feel safe.  Address &lt;em&gt;why&lt;/em&gt;, since we are all Sovereign over our emotions.  Deifying our neurosis isn&#039;t going to empower or heal anyone.

Fear is not Love.  Nor does it have the Creative Power of Love.

The Whole purpose of Unconditional Love, is that it is ALL inclusive.  No conditions and no exclusions.

Anyone of us delivering messages tinted with either conditions or exclusions, is operating from our insecure Personality level.  It will not be a message of any kind of Spiritual Light or Understanding.  Such is what happens anytime we choose to believe in love only upon condition.

Love upon condition is bartering and when we speak of bartering for love, we&#039;re genuinely talking about prostituting ourselves.

If we would simply look at our emotional behaviour, much would become clear.

Beliefs in conditional love create psychological issues of insecurity and self doubt.  We are needy and seek relationships with others in order to fulfill those needs.  It is not Love that is extended in these types of relationships; it is need.

Need is not Love.  It indicates a lack of it.

Genuine Love extends itself for the sheer Joy of extension.  No exclusions, no conditions.  Like the Light of the Sun shines on everyone and everything equally.</description>
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<p>ANY and ALL expressions of &#8220;exclusive&#8221; are nothing more then illusions.</p>
<p>There is NO&#8230;.nothing&#8230;nada&#8230;zip&#8230;.zero Spiritual Understanding and Essence present, when such attitudes are being expressed.</p>
<p>All That Is <em>means</em> All That Is.</p>
<p>Not just &#8220;some&#8221;.</p>
<p>All of our ideas about an &#8220;exclusive anything&#8221;, like the idea of a &#8220;gated heaven&#8221; are products of our emotional issues.  Most especially those we have not dealt with.</p>
<p>&#8220;Sensitivity&#8221; brings AWARENESS, not &#8220;boohoo, the world is such a coarse place for my &#8220;refined&#8221;  *coughcough* &#8216;sensitivities&#8217;.  All the &#8220;protect me from all the hurt in the world&#8221; is, is a cry of being intensely AFRAID.   Simply a desire of needing a &#8216;safe&#8217; place indicates we do NOT feel safe.  Address <em>why</em>, since we are all Sovereign over our emotions.  Deifying our neurosis isn&#8217;t going to empower or heal anyone.</p>
<p>Fear is not Love.  Nor does it have the Creative Power of Love.</p>
<p>The Whole purpose of Unconditional Love, is that it is ALL inclusive.  No conditions and no exclusions.</p>
<p>Anyone of us delivering messages tinted with either conditions or exclusions, is operating from our insecure Personality level.  It will not be a message of any kind of Spiritual Light or Understanding.  Such is what happens anytime we choose to believe in love only upon condition.</p>
<p>Love upon condition is bartering and when we speak of bartering for love, we&#8217;re genuinely talking about prostituting ourselves.</p>
<p>If we would simply look at our emotional behaviour, much would become clear.</p>
<p>Beliefs in conditional love create psychological issues of insecurity and self doubt.  We are needy and seek relationships with others in order to fulfill those needs.  It is not Love that is extended in these types of relationships; it is need.</p>
<p>Need is not Love.  It indicates a lack of it.</p>
<p>Genuine Love extends itself for the sheer Joy of extension.  No exclusions, no conditions.  Like the Light of the Sun shines on everyone and everything equally.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Ann Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Ann Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>{{Ingeborg}}

Especially in light of what you shared, I would guide to Be True to Your Own Heart.

Listen to it and observe its cautions.  If there is a sense of uneasiness, then there IS a Reason.

Trust in what your Intuition is revealing to you.

{{{hugs}}}</description>
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<p>Especially in light of what you shared, I would guide to Be True to Your Own Heart.</p>
<p>Listen to it and observe its cautions.  If there is a sense of uneasiness, then there IS a Reason.</p>
<p>Trust in what your Intuition is revealing to you.</p>
<p>{{{hugs}}}</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Ann Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Ann Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings Jodie &amp; Ingeborg!

{{{{hugs}}}}

I was getting ready for the 1st day back at school yesterday, so I didn&#039;t have a chance to respond.

{{Ingeborg}}, my blog is meant for whatever we choose to use it for!  You are most welcome!!!!  And sharing our stories is how we serve one another.

{{Jodie}},  I have enjoyed and appreciated the Shouds over the years but I&#039;ve never been involved in any of the CC Group&#039;s doings.  My beloved {{Sis}} has been involved though, so I am aware of the business correspondence.

I&#039;m also aware of the resonances that come/came through the q &amp;a sections and it is this resonance that is the reason I stayed away.   I joined the CC Board briefly a little over a year ago, because I was asked to come by {{Sis}}.  She shared there were posts appearing expressing genuine inner journeys and effort being made, so I showed up.  And there was very little self respect there, much less being expressed.

It was not a Loving place but a needy place and hell bent on staying that way.

I spoke up to join my voice with Torben&#039;s.  New energy, old energy, professional business ethics are professional business ethics.  It took Courage to speak up like Torben did and my desire was to be supportive of such quality of character.

What&#039;s been going on?

Enlightenment.

Like clockwork, 1st thing that happens when our awareness expands, is disillusionment.  And our usual knee jerk reaction is to get angry at whoever pulled the wool over our eyes.  But who we are REALLY angry at and with, is ourselves.

For choosing to believe in it or believe it to begin with.

The important part about it all is that we do NOT believe it anymore.

Believe it or not {{Jodie}}, you&#039;re not the first person to tell me of the latest Shoud.  {{Sis}} already gave me a warning I most likely would not be pleased.  From what I&#039;ve heard so far, when I sit down to listen, I&#039;m going to be listening from the point of view of curiousity.

What does a channel do when they&#039;re suppose to be channeling St. Germain and St. Germain doesn&#039;t even bother to show up?

It&#039;s like I&#039;ve been trying to share but I guess &#039;try&#039; is the operative word, since I wasn&#039;t successful...

ANY idea or concept of &quot;exclusiveness&quot; is NOT a Spiritual vibration.  It is the very IDEA of &quot;exclusiveness&quot; that makes ~old~ energy patterns, OLD!

Integrity is created through the process of Integration.  I&#039;ve known for quite a few years that the CC Group hasn&#039;t done much in the way of Integration.

And We cannot extend what we do not have.

All any of us can give is all we have.  I feel great Compassion  for the CC Group, for their future is not the one that was dreamed of.

In 2005, they were riding the crest of the last old energy wave.  Communications and correspondence were overflowing with optimistic projections of expansiveness.  As well as, control freaking activity.

In 2006, things started going down.  This is when our cycle of Accountability &amp; Responsibility began.  An inner audit was being taken.  Our &quot;Selfs&quot; showed up, asking for an accounting of our intentions and deep motives.

That&#039;s coincidentally when the requests for cash donations began in earnest.   Fees for continuing to be &#039;certified&#039; also appeared.

If there was a way to squeeze people for money/energy, it was tried.  That&#039;s when my alarm bells started going off and I started asking {{Sis}} what experiences she had had.

I feel Honored you have shared your email with me, Jodie.  I have your email too, Ingeborg! (wink)
And I&#039;m going to sit down and write both of you now.

Thank you for enriching my life by letting me know {{{you}}}

Sincerely,

Sue Ann</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings Jodie &amp; Ingeborg!</p>
<p>{{{{hugs}}}}</p>
<p>I was getting ready for the 1st day back at school yesterday, so I didn&#8217;t have a chance to respond.</p>
<p>{{Ingeborg}}, my blog is meant for whatever we choose to use it for!  You are most welcome!!!!  And sharing our stories is how we serve one another.</p>
<p>{{Jodie}},  I have enjoyed and appreciated the Shouds over the years but I&#8217;ve never been involved in any of the CC Group&#8217;s doings.  My beloved {{Sis}} has been involved though, so I am aware of the business correspondence.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also aware of the resonances that come/came through the q &amp;a sections and it is this resonance that is the reason I stayed away.   I joined the CC Board briefly a little over a year ago, because I was asked to come by {{Sis}}.  She shared there were posts appearing expressing genuine inner journeys and effort being made, so I showed up.  And there was very little self respect there, much less being expressed.</p>
<p>It was not a Loving place but a needy place and hell bent on staying that way.</p>
<p>I spoke up to join my voice with Torben&#8217;s.  New energy, old energy, professional business ethics are professional business ethics.  It took Courage to speak up like Torben did and my desire was to be supportive of such quality of character.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s been going on?</p>
<p>Enlightenment.</p>
<p>Like clockwork, 1st thing that happens when our awareness expands, is disillusionment.  And our usual knee jerk reaction is to get angry at whoever pulled the wool over our eyes.  But who we are REALLY angry at and with, is ourselves.</p>
<p>For choosing to believe in it or believe it to begin with.</p>
<p>The important part about it all is that we do NOT believe it anymore.</p>
<p>Believe it or not {{Jodie}}, you&#8217;re not the first person to tell me of the latest Shoud.  {{Sis}} already gave me a warning I most likely would not be pleased.  From what I&#8217;ve heard so far, when I sit down to listen, I&#8217;m going to be listening from the point of view of curiousity.</p>
<p>What does a channel do when they&#8217;re suppose to be channeling St. Germain and St. Germain doesn&#8217;t even bother to show up?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like I&#8217;ve been trying to share but I guess &#8216;try&#8217; is the operative word, since I wasn&#8217;t successful&#8230;</p>
<p>ANY idea or concept of &#8220;exclusiveness&#8221; is NOT a Spiritual vibration.  It is the very IDEA of &#8220;exclusiveness&#8221; that makes ~old~ energy patterns, OLD!</p>
<p>Integrity is created through the process of Integration.  I&#8217;ve known for quite a few years that the CC Group hasn&#8217;t done much in the way of Integration.</p>
<p>And We cannot extend what we do not have.</p>
<p>All any of us can give is all we have.  I feel great Compassion  for the CC Group, for their future is not the one that was dreamed of.</p>
<p>In 2005, they were riding the crest of the last old energy wave.  Communications and correspondence were overflowing with optimistic projections of expansiveness.  As well as, control freaking activity.</p>
<p>In 2006, things started going down.  This is when our cycle of Accountability &amp; Responsibility began.  An inner audit was being taken.  Our &#8220;Selfs&#8221; showed up, asking for an accounting of our intentions and deep motives.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s coincidentally when the requests for cash donations began in earnest.   Fees for continuing to be &#8216;certified&#8217; also appeared.</p>
<p>If there was a way to squeeze people for money/energy, it was tried.  That&#8217;s when my alarm bells started going off and I started asking {{Sis}} what experiences she had had.</p>
<p>I feel Honored you have shared your email with me, Jodie.  I have your email too, Ingeborg! (wink)<br />
And I&#8217;m going to sit down and write both of you now.</p>
<p>Thank you for enriching my life by letting me know {{{you}}}</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Sue Ann</p>
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		<title>By: Jodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ingeborg,

Please email me at sunshinegang@hcinet.net

Since all this is still so fresh for me, and the backlash I got from them still stings even now, I hope you can understand my reluctance of knowing who to trust.  I have yet to hear from Sue Ann and really wanted to make contact with her and even Torben too before going further with things.  I hope you understand!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ingeborg,</p>
<p>Please email me at <a href="mailto:sunshinegang@hcinet.net">sunshinegang@hcinet.net</a></p>
<p>Since all this is still so fresh for me, and the backlash I got from them still stings even now, I hope you can understand my reluctance of knowing who to trust.  I have yet to hear from Sue Ann and really wanted to make contact with her and even Torben too before going further with things.  I hope you understand!</p>
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		<title>By: Ingeborg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ingeborg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jodie, for your information. I am bit disappointed that you don&#039;t want to be more specific but I think I understand why.

Thanks Sue Ann for let me use your blog for this, I guess it wasn&#039;t meant for ex-CC-members who wants to share their stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jodie, for your information. I am bit disappointed that you don&#8217;t want to be more specific but I think I understand why.</p>
<p>Thanks Sue Ann for let me use your blog for this, I guess it wasn&#8217;t meant for ex-CC-members who wants to share their stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Jodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ingeborg,

As it appears you may already be feeling, my situation that occurred in August most definitely had to do with CC.   I&#039;m still in a place of trying to find my own balance in everything that happened without falling into judgment and blame.  I don&#039;t really want to go into specifics as I don&#039;t feel it&#039;s my place to &quot;oust their secrets&quot; but suffice it to say, they are there.  I can say that the stuff with the stockholder situation that has already been posted here is quite accurate as well as one aspect of it that is still not known but if the stockholders knew about would really &quot;finish the puzzle&quot; so to speak on what really happened.
The &quot;straw that broke the camels back&quot; for me was something I learned while I was spending a weekend at this person&#039;s (that I mentioned in my post above) house in August that just showed me that there is a huge lack of integrity going on with Geoff that I no longer wanted to be a part of.  It was a huge wake up call in discernment that showed me he can no longer speak as a clear channel when he&#039;s got so much going on that is out of alignment with what he teaches.  Listening to the most recent shoud from Sept. 5th really confirmed that for me as I felt so much contradiction in what came through.  For me, I feel that Tobias&#039;s leaving in July was a huge transition point for all of those who call themselves Shaumbra and I think they (the main players) needed far more than 6 weeks to integrate it all as well as get their own &quot;stuff&quot; cleared before they should have ever gone forward on this new endeavor they are on.  Today, I am mostly sad about it all and know that these times are intense for all of us.  I just hope they find a way to clear their &quot;own backyard&quot; first before really taking their work forward any further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ingeborg,</p>
<p>As it appears you may already be feeling, my situation that occurred in August most definitely had to do with CC.   I&#8217;m still in a place of trying to find my own balance in everything that happened without falling into judgment and blame.  I don&#8217;t really want to go into specifics as I don&#8217;t feel it&#8217;s my place to &#8220;oust their secrets&#8221; but suffice it to say, they are there.  I can say that the stuff with the stockholder situation that has already been posted here is quite accurate as well as one aspect of it that is still not known but if the stockholders knew about would really &#8220;finish the puzzle&#8221; so to speak on what really happened.<br />
The &#8220;straw that broke the camels back&#8221; for me was something I learned while I was spending a weekend at this person&#8217;s (that I mentioned in my post above) house in August that just showed me that there is a huge lack of integrity going on with Geoff that I no longer wanted to be a part of.  It was a huge wake up call in discernment that showed me he can no longer speak as a clear channel when he&#8217;s got so much going on that is out of alignment with what he teaches.  Listening to the most recent shoud from Sept. 5th really confirmed that for me as I felt so much contradiction in what came through.  For me, I feel that Tobias&#8217;s leaving in July was a huge transition point for all of those who call themselves Shaumbra and I think they (the main players) needed far more than 6 weeks to integrate it all as well as get their own &#8220;stuff&#8221; cleared before they should have ever gone forward on this new endeavor they are on.  Today, I am mostly sad about it all and know that these times are intense for all of us.  I just hope they find a way to clear their &#8220;own backyard&#8221; first before really taking their work forward any further.</p>
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		<title>By: Ingeborg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ingeborg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jodie, Sue and Torben ,

Thanks for this website Sue!
I am sometimes on the CC messages board. I follow the shouds, bought a lot of CD&#039;s and followed 2 workshops. Since a few days I feel something, I am suspicious about the CC but don&#039;t know why. So now I have a question for Jodie. Can you please be more specific on what happened in august?

Thanks! Ingeborg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jodie, Sue and Torben ,</p>
<p>Thanks for this website Sue!<br />
I am sometimes on the CC messages board. I follow the shouds, bought a lot of CD&#8217;s and followed 2 workshops. Since a few days I feel something, I am suspicious about the CC but don&#8217;t know why. So now I have a question for Jodie. Can you please be more specific on what happened in august?</p>
<p>Thanks! Ingeborg.</p>
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		<title>By: Jodie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 18:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue, what a treat to find your blog.  To know I am not the only one who has experienced this with the CC.  My experience is very recent, as in the last 2 weeks (of being ousted from the Teepee for calling a spade a spade).  But I&#039;ve been with the CC for almost the whole 10 years.  I&#039;ve heard and seen a lot, but what I have seen in the past year or so is what led me to the point of finally really waking up to what was going on.  I have been friends with one of the main &quot;inner players&quot; for many years.  She was not always an &quot;inner&quot; but became one herself about 1 1/2 years ago.  She has shared a WHOLE LOT with me first hand about what she found when she got there....yet she has chosen to pull the wool over her eyes and look the other way in response to it.  I did for awhile too, out of wanting to not lose the friendship.  But some events that occurred in the middle of August made me realize I can no longer look away.  My initial response was one of anger but now I&#039;m more in a place of just wanting to understand what the hell happened and to make sure I don&#039;t get sucked back in! LOL!  I&#039;ve left my email address on the side here, I would so love to connect with you by email if you are willing.   Thank you for letting me know I am not alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue, what a treat to find your blog.  To know I am not the only one who has experienced this with the CC.  My experience is very recent, as in the last 2 weeks (of being ousted from the Teepee for calling a spade a spade).  But I&#8217;ve been with the CC for almost the whole 10 years.  I&#8217;ve heard and seen a lot, but what I have seen in the past year or so is what led me to the point of finally really waking up to what was going on.  I have been friends with one of the main &#8220;inner players&#8221; for many years.  She was not always an &#8220;inner&#8221; but became one herself about 1 1/2 years ago.  She has shared a WHOLE LOT with me first hand about what she found when she got there&#8230;.yet she has chosen to pull the wool over her eyes and look the other way in response to it.  I did for awhile too, out of wanting to not lose the friendship.  But some events that occurred in the middle of August made me realize I can no longer look away.  My initial response was one of anger but now I&#8217;m more in a place of just wanting to understand what the hell happened and to make sure I don&#8217;t get sucked back in! LOL!  I&#8217;ve left my email address on the side here, I would so love to connect with you by email if you are willing.   Thank you for letting me know I am not alone.</p>
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