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		<title>By: Sue Ann Edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/2009/10/30/11-or-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1955</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Ann Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are most welcome to print it and share it as you see fit {{SE}}!

SMILING.  

Communicate it and convey it in any way you come up with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are most welcome to print it and share it as you see fit {{SE}}!</p>
<p>SMILING.  </p>
<p>Communicate it and convey it in any way you come up with.</p>
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		<title>By: Surface Earth</title>
		<link>http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/2009/10/30/11-or-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1924</link>
		<dc:creator>Surface Earth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue Ann,

This thread and flow of comments is fantastic.  Think I might print it as a primer.

SE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue Ann,</p>
<p>This thread and flow of comments is fantastic.  Think I might print it as a primer.</p>
<p>SE</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Ann Edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/2009/10/30/11-or-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1864</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Ann Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 21:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi {{tumel!}}

I&#039;m working on the pages of the website right now.  New ones are being added every day and some changed.  So...in re-reading the tasks especially, it might make a difference which copy you are reading.  I have re-written the tasks.  The ~newest~ version is here:

http://www.hera-kles.com/story/aries.xhtml

Every task is for the purpose of self discovery and self realization, not for the purpose of actually being successful at each task.  Tasks, labors, tests, trials, whatever we wish to call them...are all the same for each and every single one of us.  They are steps we take in order to realize our Divine nature.

Herakles starts the story by saying he is the glory of his Soul.  He also admits he doesn&#039;t know what a Soul even is.  Through performing the labors, he comes to learn what a Soul is and in learning, recognizes his own spiritual identity. 

The tasks are assigned Herakles by his Spiritual self.  For the purpose of coming to recognize and realize this spiritual self.  When he returns after each task, he holds a conversation.  In the ~new~ versions, he talks to the Divine Feminine, who helps him understand the purpose and the lesson of the task.

Herakles now has someone he can talk things over with, so he WON&#039;T judge himself.

In the beginning, Herakles knows himself to be human.  But he&#039;s also heard that he is Divine, too.  By the end of the labors, he knows himself to be Divine.  His sense of Identity has been switched.   In the beginning, he  thinks and acts like a &#039;human&#039;.  By the end, he thinks and acts like God.  What has changed, is his perspective.

The goat of materialism climbs the mountain and at the summit, is transformed into a unicorn of god.   The labors are the goat climbing the mountain.

Humanity, collectively, is now beginning our assent of that mountain.

Goats end up in &#039;heaven&#039;  and sheep continue living in the &#039;hell&#039; of our own making.  It&#039;s not a &#039;good&#039; time in history to be caught being a sheep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi {{tumel!}}</p>
<p>I&#8217;m working on the pages of the website right now.  New ones are being added every day and some changed.  So&#8230;in re-reading the tasks especially, it might make a difference which copy you are reading.  I have re-written the tasks.  The ~newest~ version is here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hera-kles.com/story/aries.xhtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.hera-kles.com/story/aries.xhtml</a></p>
<p>Every task is for the purpose of self discovery and self realization, not for the purpose of actually being successful at each task.  Tasks, labors, tests, trials, whatever we wish to call them&#8230;are all the same for each and every single one of us.  They are steps we take in order to realize our Divine nature.</p>
<p>Herakles starts the story by saying he is the glory of his Soul.  He also admits he doesn&#8217;t know what a Soul even is.  Through performing the labors, he comes to learn what a Soul is and in learning, recognizes his own spiritual identity. </p>
<p>The tasks are assigned Herakles by his Spiritual self.  For the purpose of coming to recognize and realize this spiritual self.  When he returns after each task, he holds a conversation.  In the ~new~ versions, he talks to the Divine Feminine, who helps him understand the purpose and the lesson of the task.</p>
<p>Herakles now has someone he can talk things over with, so he WON&#8217;T judge himself.</p>
<p>In the beginning, Herakles knows himself to be human.  But he&#8217;s also heard that he is Divine, too.  By the end of the labors, he knows himself to be Divine.  His sense of Identity has been switched.   In the beginning, he  thinks and acts like a &#8216;human&#8217;.  By the end, he thinks and acts like God.  What has changed, is his perspective.</p>
<p>The goat of materialism climbs the mountain and at the summit, is transformed into a unicorn of god.   The labors are the goat climbing the mountain.</p>
<p>Humanity, collectively, is now beginning our assent of that mountain.</p>
<p>Goats end up in &#8216;heaven&#8217;  and sheep continue living in the &#8216;hell&#8217; of our own making.  It&#8217;s not a &#8216;good&#8217; time in history to be caught being a sheep.</p>
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		<title>By: tumel</title>
		<link>http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/2009/10/30/11-or-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1863</link>
		<dc:creator>tumel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sue Ann,

I found myself re-reading the first of the Herakles tasks :) and in re-reading this time I found myself wondering, does Herakles judge himself? like he gives himself these tasks and he does these tasks as a son of man, and when he returns to see if they are completed he judges whether they are or not as a son of god?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sue Ann,</p>
<p>I found myself re-reading the first of the Herakles tasks <img src='http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  and in re-reading this time I found myself wondering, does Herakles judge himself? like he gives himself these tasks and he does these tasks as a son of man, and when he returns to see if they are completed he judges whether they are or not as a son of god?</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Ann Edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/2009/10/30/11-or-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1862</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Ann Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi {{tumel}} :smile: 

Hi {{SE}} :smile: 

You bet, habits and habitats go together hand in hand.  No matter where I go, there I am.  If I desire to change my reflection in the mirror of Life, I have to change me, 1st. 

And how about your purple planet!  Or is it just my display settings?  Can you tell?  I like purple!

This is what I have been working on all year.  It&#039;s the reason I had fewer posts...because I was writing code.  :shock: 

I don&#039;t like writing code.  I don&#039;t really know it and don&#039;t really want to learn it all now, either.  But...well, you see the results.

Now I&#039;m back to writing again, which is much easier for me and much more enjoyable.  ALL the Hera-kles stories have been re-written.  Expanding and clarifying.  

And the patterns of our &quot;karma&quot; {{tumel}} has been wondering about, are going up, too.   btw {{tumel}}, my {{sis}} expressed that &#039;yes, indeed&#039; it would be helpful to understand our patterns.

I&#039;m not stupid but I admit, I am dense.  I have NO idea what would be or could be, useful until someone speaks up and asks questions about it.

Happy New year you two!

 :razz:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi {{tumel}} <img src='http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Hi {{SE}} <img src='http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>You bet, habits and habitats go together hand in hand.  No matter where I go, there I am.  If I desire to change my reflection in the mirror of Life, I have to change me, 1st. </p>
<p>And how about your purple planet!  Or is it just my display settings?  Can you tell?  I like purple!</p>
<p>This is what I have been working on all year.  It&#8217;s the reason I had fewer posts&#8230;because I was writing code.  <img src='http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like writing code.  I don&#8217;t really know it and don&#8217;t really want to learn it all now, either.  But&#8230;well, you see the results.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m back to writing again, which is much easier for me and much more enjoyable.  ALL the Hera-kles stories have been re-written.  Expanding and clarifying.  </p>
<p>And the patterns of our &#8220;karma&#8221; {{tumel}} has been wondering about, are going up, too.   btw {{tumel}}, my {{sis}} expressed that &#8216;yes, indeed&#8217; it would be helpful to understand our patterns.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not stupid but I admit, I am dense.  I have NO idea what would be or could be, useful until someone speaks up and asks questions about it.</p>
<p>Happy New year you two!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':razz:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Surface Earth</title>
		<link>http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/2009/10/30/11-or-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1856</link>
		<dc:creator>Surface Earth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue!  The new look is magnificent!  Wonderful energy, i feel there is much to learn!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue!  The new look is magnificent!  Wonderful energy, i feel there is much to learn!</p>
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		<title>By: tumel</title>
		<link>http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/2009/10/30/11-or-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1811</link>
		<dc:creator>tumel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and habits are like habitats, the places where we live :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and habits are like habitats, the places where we live <img src='http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sue Ann Edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/2009/10/30/11-or-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1801</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Ann Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t easy to describe the inner experience of it, is it?   :grin:

Everything you shared goes right along with how we all replace one habit with another.  It&#039;s ALL as simple as that.  Notice I said &quot;simple&quot;, not &quot;easy&quot;.  If we desire &quot;easy&quot;, then we have to do all the &quot;simple&quot; work.  It is not without effort of our own willpower that we deal with our ~habits~.

I ran across a quote the other day from the Book of Isaiah; here is what it said:

&quot;My thoughts are not your thoughts
Neither are your ways my ways
For as heavens are higher then the earth
So are my ways higher then your ways
And my thoughts higher then your thoughts.&quot;

It&#039;s as simple as replacing a habit with a habit.  I think by the time we catch ourselves in one of our automated response patterns about 20 times and stop ourselves, we have created a ~new~ habit.

This ~is~ what the transcendence of &quot;karma&quot; is all about.

Bravo!  Bravo!

 :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t easy to describe the inner experience of it, is it?   <img src='http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':grin:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Everything you shared goes right along with how we all replace one habit with another.  It&#8217;s ALL as simple as that.  Notice I said &#8220;simple&#8221;, not &#8220;easy&#8221;.  If we desire &#8220;easy&#8221;, then we have to do all the &#8220;simple&#8221; work.  It is not without effort of our own willpower that we deal with our ~habits~.</p>
<p>I ran across a quote the other day from the Book of Isaiah; here is what it said:</p>
<p>&#8220;My thoughts are not your thoughts<br />
Neither are your ways my ways<br />
For as heavens are higher then the earth<br />
So are my ways higher then your ways<br />
And my thoughts higher then your thoughts.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s as simple as replacing a habit with a habit.  I think by the time we catch ourselves in one of our automated response patterns about 20 times and stop ourselves, we have created a ~new~ habit.</p>
<p>This ~is~ what the transcendence of &#8220;karma&#8221; is all about.</p>
<p>Bravo!  Bravo!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: tumel</title>
		<link>http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/2009/10/30/11-or-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1800</link>
		<dc:creator>tumel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel myself shifting, during this shift :) 

from analytical to synthesizing (I still find myself analyzing, sometimes, but I am much more aware when I do)
  
from protective to respectful (in this shift I find myself aware of what triggers self-defense in me and I think, analyze? :) why)
  
from worrier to wise (I worry less and less of things, and tell myself when I do, that worry is fear-based so I take this worry and think, what is the very worst that can happen in what I worry about and face it this way, a little saying always comes to my mind when I do this, and I forget where I read this, but it is in my heart now, &quot;that we are always where we are meant to be&quot;

and because of this saying :) I also feel myself shifting from

interfering to acceptance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel myself shifting, during this shift <img src='http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>from analytical to synthesizing (I still find myself analyzing, sometimes, but I am much more aware when I do)</p>
<p>from protective to respectful (in this shift I find myself aware of what triggers self-defense in me and I think, analyze? <img src='http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  why)</p>
<p>from worrier to wise (I worry less and less of things, and tell myself when I do, that worry is fear-based so I take this worry and think, what is the very worst that can happen in what I worry about and face it this way, a little saying always comes to my mind when I do this, and I forget where I read this, but it is in my heart now, &#8220;that we are always where we are meant to be&#8221;</p>
<p>and because of this saying <img src='http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I also feel myself shifting from</p>
<p>interfering to acceptance</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Ann Edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/2009/10/30/11-or-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1797</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Ann Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like to say we&#039;re &quot;toddlers&quot;, just learning to walk and don&#039;t always make it.  Fumbling, toddling, feeling like a beached whale sometimes....are all part of the process.  So is going from feeling lighter then air to lower then a toad in a blink of an eye.  It&#039;s an exercise in Acceptance &amp; Tolerance: Accepting and Tolerating ourselves as we grow, renew and expand as you have shared. 

Like learning how to climb stairs when we were little.  We&#039;d take a step, then toddle, as we shifted our weight from foot to foot in order to find a new center of balance.  Then we lifted the other foot up and there we stood, with an elevated point of view.

Hopefully, none of our mothers tried to stop us from learning how to walk due to a fear of us tumbling.  

Yes, I am verrrrrry familiar with what you share about &quot;compassion&quot;.  And it is altogether different then &quot;sympathy&quot;.  What&#039;s considered &quot;nice&quot; is to agree with whatever perspective is shared, even when we don&#039;t.  That&#039;s why I share to say &quot;I Understand&quot;.  I can Understand and not agree at the same time, for my Understanding may be vastly different then what another expects.

There are issues we haven&#039;t been facing and I&#039;ve &#039;seen&#039; them coming.  Our first chance to deal with our issues is always on the mental level and if we ignore this, then our next chance comes on our emotional level.  It&#039;s only if we haven&#039;t dealt with our issues mentally or emotionally that we end up facing them on a physical level, where we cannot escape them.  And that is what we are doing now.

I can only give what I have.  If I don&#039;t have Compassion for myself, if I can&#039;t accept myself, all of me, even the parts I try to keep locked inside the closet of my body, hoping and praying they never get out and no one ever finds out they are there.  It&#039;s what we all do.

I honestly have no idea about the spam reply.  This is the first I have heard of it and I do apologize.  I&#039;ll check the administration panel and see what&#039;s up.  Even those of us who are whiz kids when it comes to codex (and I&#039;m certainly not one of them), admit there are *bugs* in the programs. 

As far as I know, as has been reported to me, I&#039;ve only had (2) spam comments and neither one of them was *you*.  There are also no virus&#039; or bugs present on any pages but I have had one report of someone&#039;s anti-virus being activated.  I also know there are a lot of screwy things happening with certain anyti-virus programs.   Hackers and crackers just adore McAfee.

{{{{hugs}}}}}

I&#039;ll put up a post for you.  I&#039;ve posted it before but who knows when and where in the archives?  It will be posted under &quot;Wisdom Texts&quot; on my website, for easy access.  It&#039;s called:
&quot;Things of Value I Carry With Me Where Ever I Go&quot;.

Maybe my story and the reasons why I changed, I &lt;em&gt;chose&lt;/em&gt; to change, will be clearer in Light of the past 18 months?   

If we&#039;re alive on planet earth, we are growing...and as you say, extremely fast at that.   What&#039;s happening is a shift in the orientation of our Values.  And it helps when and if we&#039;re aware of what direction we&#039;re shifting &lt;em&gt;to&lt;/em&gt;.  

Notice on how many issues we&#039;re not expressing &quot;them&quot; anymore, as in, &quot;that doesn&#039;t effect me, just &#039;them&#039;.&quot;  Now we&#039;re saying &quot;us&quot;.

There is an old saying here about not judging a man until we&#039;ve walked a mile in his moccasins.  The saying is not an admonition as some of us may imagine.  It&#039;s not meant to point fingers.  It&#039;s meant as a cautionary statement.

For when we express that we are lacking in Understanding, the Universe complies and, brings to us the experiences that will resolve that lack.  We learn to understand by being placed in the same circumstances as those we judge and condemn.  When it&#039;s our foot wearing those shoes, we tend to be more humane and Compassionate. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to say we&#8217;re &#8220;toddlers&#8221;, just learning to walk and don&#8217;t always make it.  Fumbling, toddling, feeling like a beached whale sometimes&#8230;.are all part of the process.  So is going from feeling lighter then air to lower then a toad in a blink of an eye.  It&#8217;s an exercise in Acceptance &#038; Tolerance: Accepting and Tolerating ourselves as we grow, renew and expand as you have shared. </p>
<p>Like learning how to climb stairs when we were little.  We&#8217;d take a step, then toddle, as we shifted our weight from foot to foot in order to find a new center of balance.  Then we lifted the other foot up and there we stood, with an elevated point of view.</p>
<p>Hopefully, none of our mothers tried to stop us from learning how to walk due to a fear of us tumbling.  </p>
<p>Yes, I am verrrrrry familiar with what you share about &#8220;compassion&#8221;.  And it is altogether different then &#8220;sympathy&#8221;.  What&#8217;s considered &#8220;nice&#8221; is to agree with whatever perspective is shared, even when we don&#8217;t.  That&#8217;s why I share to say &#8220;I Understand&#8221;.  I can Understand and not agree at the same time, for my Understanding may be vastly different then what another expects.</p>
<p>There are issues we haven&#8217;t been facing and I&#8217;ve &#8217;seen&#8217; them coming.  Our first chance to deal with our issues is always on the mental level and if we ignore this, then our next chance comes on our emotional level.  It&#8217;s only if we haven&#8217;t dealt with our issues mentally or emotionally that we end up facing them on a physical level, where we cannot escape them.  And that is what we are doing now.</p>
<p>I can only give what I have.  If I don&#8217;t have Compassion for myself, if I can&#8217;t accept myself, all of me, even the parts I try to keep locked inside the closet of my body, hoping and praying they never get out and no one ever finds out they are there.  It&#8217;s what we all do.</p>
<p>I honestly have no idea about the spam reply.  This is the first I have heard of it and I do apologize.  I&#8217;ll check the administration panel and see what&#8217;s up.  Even those of us who are whiz kids when it comes to codex (and I&#8217;m certainly not one of them), admit there are *bugs* in the programs. </p>
<p>As far as I know, as has been reported to me, I&#8217;ve only had (2) spam comments and neither one of them was *you*.  There are also no virus&#8217; or bugs present on any pages but I have had one report of someone&#8217;s anti-virus being activated.  I also know there are a lot of screwy things happening with certain anyti-virus programs.   Hackers and crackers just adore McAfee.</p>
<p>{{{{hugs}}}}}</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll put up a post for you.  I&#8217;ve posted it before but who knows when and where in the archives?  It will be posted under &#8220;Wisdom Texts&#8221; on my website, for easy access.  It&#8217;s called:<br />
&#8220;Things of Value I Carry With Me Where Ever I Go&#8221;.</p>
<p>Maybe my story and the reasons why I changed, I <em>chose</em> to change, will be clearer in Light of the past 18 months?   </p>
<p>If we&#8217;re alive on planet earth, we are growing&#8230;and as you say, extremely fast at that.   What&#8217;s happening is a shift in the orientation of our Values.  And it helps when and if we&#8217;re aware of what direction we&#8217;re shifting <em>to</em>.  </p>
<p>Notice on how many issues we&#8217;re not expressing &#8220;them&#8221; anymore, as in, &#8220;that doesn&#8217;t effect me, just &#8216;them&#8217;.&#8221;  Now we&#8217;re saying &#8220;us&#8221;.</p>
<p>There is an old saying here about not judging a man until we&#8217;ve walked a mile in his moccasins.  The saying is not an admonition as some of us may imagine.  It&#8217;s not meant to point fingers.  It&#8217;s meant as a cautionary statement.</p>
<p>For when we express that we are lacking in Understanding, the Universe complies and, brings to us the experiences that will resolve that lack.  We learn to understand by being placed in the same circumstances as those we judge and condemn.  When it&#8217;s our foot wearing those shoes, we tend to be more humane and Compassionate.</p>
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