Told Us so…
On this post, June 6, 2008:
http://sueannedwards.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/the-carrot-and-the-donkey/
“I withhold my support for any of the teachings. It’s the same pile of shallow *crap* that’s been circulating the past 10 years. A lot of chatter from and about our false egos…that’s all it is.”
My comment was directed towards James Ray’s teachings. I used the phrase “dumbass” in my comment too. This is the same man who is currently under investigation for conducting a “spiritual warrior” sweat lodge that resulted in 2 people dead and 17 more sent to hospitals.
Reminds me of the group in Colorado around 15 years ago. In order to bring more light into their minds, they drilled a hole in the top of their heads the size of a quarter.
“A weekend that will truly change your life.”
At least that much was true.
I wouldn’t believe a word coming out of this man’s mouth.
$9000.00?
…
A fool and their money are soon parted.
Updated Friday October 16, 2009:
“This is the most difficult time I’ve ever faced,” Ray told a crowd of about 200 at a hotel in Marina del Rey. “I don’t know how to deal with it really.”
Noticeably LACKING in emotional skills, huh? Nothing *wrong* with this of course. It simply reveals a state of both emotional poverty AND spiritual poverty.
“Warrior”, indeed. Simply the word itself conveys a state of conflict. And just imagine…having the audacity to claim being able to ‘teach’ “Harmonic Weath”! Everything about every idea expressed indicates a LACK of any kind of understanding or realization of the ’spiritual’ or ‘quantum’ planes of existence. Much less living in HARMONY with those planes of existence.
One time I asked an Indian Shaman the purpose or meaning of ‘animal guides’. He told me that these guides are necessary in order to carry us across the great void that separates the realms of spirit from the earth.
And I responded, “If I don’t imagine any void of separation then I really don’t need anyone’s or anything else’s help to access the territory at will, do I?”
ANY and ALL of our ideas based on the concept of separation and/or conflict, are of our own making, meaning Man-made and, do not express ANY Realization nor Understanding of Absolute States of Being.
Finally, all the frauds are being exposed…
Reality consists of both positive and negative. Anytime we focus our will and our desire upon only positive, is the moment we’ve stepped into a fantasy land founded upon wiping out Reality.
And Reality always eventually shows up and wipes out the wiper.
Harmonic Wealth consists of genuine Attributes of character, expressing an Integration of the dimensions. A Spiritual wealth will be reflected as mental wealth, which is an abundance of ideas; it will be reflected as emotional wealth, which is an abundance of intimate relationships and finally…it will be reflected as physical wealth, which is defined as the “use of” energy, not ownership and possession of it.
Anyone teaching conflict knows nothing of Harmony.
Sue Ann Edwards
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October 21st, 2009 - 5:49 am
Ah, spiritual quacks. How much I have had fun with those sorts of people.
Seriously though, they can really push my buttons. I think spirituality is something so sacred that when someone spoils its name, they deserve a real smacking.
Andrew
October 21st, 2009 - 9:50 am
Greetings {{Andrew}}!
We are in a season of *exposure* and it has barely begun. Physical reality is morphing to mirror our inner realities.
On the inner reality, everyone who attends(ed) one of these kind of workshops, is reacting to a subconscious FEAR of “not enough”. Radiating and transmitting this FEAR oriented essence, the Universe is bound to respond in accord with it.
How many experiences of paying 1000’s for crap does it take before the crap is all that we’re left with?
~tada~
Fear of “not enough” creates experiences of “not enough”.
For what it is worth, these frauds and pretenders have pushed my buttons too, over the years. But I’ve also known this cycle was coming and, everything not in alignment with it, would be destroyed.
What these characters do, is offer “free” seminars to draw in people. During the seminar, the people get hyped up and that’s when the energetic sucking begins. Whoever is conducting the seminar literally sucks the energy from the crowd, like a big fat tick.
People end up feeling drained with a false euphoria that doesn’t last. Like addicts, the people then feel the need to attend again, just to get to that false high. And that’s when they’re hit with a price tag.
In as much as James Ray has survived by energetically sucking from others, is exactly how much energy is going to be sucked out of his life now, instead.
There IS Justice in the Universe but rarely does it have anything to do with what Man thinks of as Just.
Welcome, welcome!
October 26th, 2009 - 2:47 pm
If it wasn’t such a tragedy, it would be funny…. I thought I had heard that name before, then after coming over to your new spot, it clicked that James Ray had indeed pushed the wrong buttons for me early one morning while watching the Today show.
http://cordiebw.com/2008/04/23/buz-word-of-the-week-harmony/
Although, I made light of it then. And, if I recall correctly, you did too…. hee haw…
Nice spot here. Is this where you will be posting from now on?
Blessings, Sue Anne!
October 27th, 2009 - 9:19 am
I don’t even consider it tragic {{cordieb}}. I consider it Mercy. Simply look at the obvious, which is usually what we overlook seeing. All who attended were desperate to avoid “poverty” or “living without”. So desperate that they paid 1000’s of $$$$ in hopes of finding out how to ~avoid~ what they were terrified of. Those who died did not feel “safe” living on earth any longer. The base or foundation of their life’s security had been threatened. Most likely as a result of our ‘earth changes’.
A Scorpion will sting itself to death rather then face its fear of fire. Those who died made the same choice and decision, subconsciously. I know this is the kind of decision my mom made, after my father died. I also know that many couples ‘just happen’ to depart in the same way, one right after another. This is due to our reality being completely changed and way beyond our comfort zones of feeling safe and secure.
We don’t know how to deal with it. We don’t know how to adapt. We don’t know how to cope. Saddest of all, we don’t think we’re able to learn how.
Crackpots like James Ray are the reason I share the story of used oats and fresh oats. It’s not conducive to our health to confuse the two. Used oats are fine for fertilizer but not to eat. Not only is this particular ‘emperor’ not wearing any clothes but he’s a eunuch to boot!
I followed your link. Yup, yup…~WE~ picked up on his SICK bs, for sure. WE’ve even had a couple of conversations ourselves about the topic of Harmony.
The problem for MEN is our World’s domination pattern they have been psychologically programmed in. This pattern BLOCKS a males’s access to the intuitive dimensions. As a result, males can and have ONLY accessed just a wee bit but being males, they make a BIG DEAL out of what little they have managed to absorb.
As WOMEN, we have the advantage, because of that same domination pattern. But have a tendency to be “timid”. I guess that’s the gap I fill because I’ve never been accused of being “timid”.
It’s like dancing. It takes a greater strength to ‘follow’ then it does to ‘lead’ and many men do not possess this (inner) strength BECAUSE of Society’s programming.
The 5th labor of Hercules is the slaying of the lion. This is the surrender of our desire nature over to the direction of our Soul. And is what is happening ~Now~ on a global level.
There’s a LOT of glamour and illusion surrounding the issue of “choice”, when we ONLY have ONE choice available to us right now. ONE and ONLY one.
We can choose to surrender to Spirit or if we prefer, think of it as surrendering to our World changing. Or we can choose to resist and endeavor to hold onto forms, ie., institutions, organizations, thinking patterns, etc. That’s IT.
James Ray’s followers are/were into resistance, as are many followers of many escapist groups. And I guess this could be considered a timely *warning*. “Humanity”, learn to love it…ALL of it… or, leave it.
Spirit has the POWER to make our Personality’s choice of resistance MOOT, just like happened to a couple of James Rays’ followers…simply the choice to BE a “follower”, was a choice of Denial. What we do not Understand, is every time we choose Denial, we ask for Death.
If We could see as I see, we would Understand there is very little about our way of Life that is worth holding onto. Our glamors and illusions blind Us. What We have been programmed and taught to be ‘lovely’ is Truly quite repulsive. “Right” is most often is a form of being Unloving, an expression of Our ABSENCE of Virtue, not its strength. These illusions turn our view of reality all which ways except for Straight and True.
And Loving.
We are being called upon to reach inside Ourselves and prove to our World and Us, how much we Love it.
There is a simple litmus test that reveals the Truth or Deception in any teaching. Is it from a Perspective, a point of view, that is All inclusive?
Is the teaching meant to teach how to manipulate matter, how to direct it, how to control it, how to ‘create’ only positive outcomes? Like a lala land of ‘heaven’ that insulates everyone inside it, from anything and everything We don’t know how to deal with in Acceptance & Understanding? Is the Ideal similar in form to a psychiatric institute?
Then it is a False teaching and a False teacher that is teaching it. It is the character of Busiris and the purpose is to keep Us enchained in service to him in exchange for his knowledge. The riddle of the story, the understanding of the Labor, is that there is a BIG difference between Knowledge and Wisdom.
Wisdom is Knowledge applied in successful practical application. Wisdom also makes SENSE, which a lot of Knowledge doesn’t. Encyclopedia Britannica is an extensive Knowledge base but don’t ask it to what what to do with any of it.
Post *here*, post *there*, I’ll be keeping up with both places!
This is where my ~new~ posts will be posted but I will be leaving messages on the other blog pointing this direction. I’m on my own server space right now, actually running it behind the scenes.
Which means I don’t have to choose one of the ‘canned’ themes and am not limited in what features I add. Like the little emoticons.
~chuckling~ I happen to KNOW how UNcomfortable Spiritual Frauds are with “emotions” so I’m bringing the “issue” out into the open.
And if any of the frauds I name AS frauds happen to be up to it, (snicker, snicker), I’ll be happy to publicly meet with them face to face. It would then be obvious who has ’spiritual balls’ and who’s balls haven’t even so much as dropped.
October 27th, 2009 - 9:46 am
Woohoo!
“The Church of Scientology has been convicted of organized fraud.”
…dropping like flies….
{{{{{ROFL}}}}}}
October 31st, 2009 - 12:25 pm
{{{cordieb}}} I did some checking and thought you might be interested in what I found. {{{{tumel}}}} you too,might be interested in that in concerns subjects you ask about.
I will be quoting from here:
http://www.strangehouse.com/natal-aspects/mars-conjunct-neptune-2.html
James Ray dob: November 22, 1957
Mars conjunct Neptune:
“An unintegrated Neptune can dissolve that focused will, making decisive clarity difficult to maintain. Additionally, you tend to avoid accepting the consequences of your choices, and there can be a refusal to acknowledge responsibility when such actions lead to failure or negative results.”
“Part of this derives from lack of prior consideration and a willingness to sometimes jump into action on impulse alone;’I didn’t know it would turn out like that…’ is used as a defensive excuse, and is probably true because possible repercussions were not evaluated. Yet continuing with such an approach is essentially avoiding personal responsibility.”
“As Mars will influence you to be more dynamically assertive, you need to take into account your effects on other people too, especially any family and those closest to you. This may then modify your more self-centered tendencies and ensure that through insensitivity you do not then create unnecessary pain for anyone.”
“You can be quite attractive to others, as the Mars-Neptune energies combine to create a potentially dynamic glamour, yet this apparent combination of action and sensitivity can often be superficial. You quite enjoy playing with these masks and feeling that your real intentions are hidden within a secret persona; you do not really like others to know you too well.”
“whilst you aspire to great status and achievement, your lack of will or application and your impracticality defeat you. Ultimately, your image of self-elevation may only exist within your imagination. Working hard to actually achieve viable skills is another way of helping yourself; if you do not do this, that unintegrated Neptune will serve only to dissolve those dreams instead of helping to fulfill them.”
“A combination of impulsive Mars and the self-deluding tendency of Neptune may conspire to show you the pain of disappointing illusions.”
And from the AP:
“James’ father was an Oklahoma preacher…from Tulsa.”
*hackles rising in the back of my neck*
My family is from Tulsa. If it’s one thing I KNOW for sure, it’s the likelihood that this preacher preaches the same limited dualistic nonsense most other Oklahoma Preachers do. It’s an “evangelistic” state with Tulsa as headquarters for “Oral Roberts”.
“Money and spirituality where central to him.”
Money and RELIGION I will believe but ~not~ “spirituality”. Not with an Oklahoma preacher for a dad.
“Ray wrote in his 2008 book, “Harmonic Wealth.” “How could a loving God keep me from Cub Scouts on account of not being able to afford a uniform?”
That’s the statement of a shallow and superficial brat right there.
“critics say Ray is a charlatan who preys upon the insecurities of the rich who are looking for meaning in life. They say he operates without regulation or oversight to verify accurate claims or safe methods”
Now where have I heard that before?
“On October 28, the family of sweat lodge victim Kirby Brown says that Ray is insincere. They said he assured them he was working with authorities and yet the sheriff hasn’t received an official statement from Ray. Ray offered the family a $5000 refund on October 22, with a sympathies card to settle them, which was described as “laughable”.
“Ray has a Twitter account and was sending “tweets” of his intentions on the day of the deaths, before the lodge event. Apparently, Mr. Ray later deleted the tweets, but they were nonetheless found by others and reported. They included references to death.”
Did I mention his Mars-Neptune conjunction is in Scorpio, a ‘death fixation’ sign?
“Native American chiefs and experts on sweat lodges have criticized the reported construction and conduct of the lodge as not meeting traditional ways (“bastardized” and “mocked”). Indian leaders expressed concerns and prayers for the dead and injured. The typical leader has 4 to 8 years of apprenticeship before being allowed to care for people in a lodge. The ceremony should only be in sanctioned lodge carriers hands from legitimate nations. Participants are instructed to call out whenever they feel uncomfortable, and the ceremony is usually stopped to help them. The lodge was said to be unusually built from non-breathable materials. Charging for the ceremony was said to be inappropriate. The number of participants was criticized as too high and the ceremony length was said to be too long. Respect to elders’ oversight was said to be important for avoiding unfortunate events. The tragedy was characterized as “plain carelessness”, with a disregard for the participants safety and outright negligence.”
This man has been nothing more then a big bag of hot air all along. And it just goes to show how gullible and ignorant We are, that he was even asked to appear on shows such as “Oprah” and “Today” , much less a ‘best selling’ author. Every single one of us that promoted him or supported him in any way, bears the karmic responsibility (energetic debt for supporting fraud) for what has happened. And the foundations dropping out from under us, due to both “enlightenment” and “dis-illusionment”, is the result of energy being ~sucked out~ of our realities.
~lucky~ for me I was an outspoken oddball!
or is *luck* simply another one of Our illusions?
There is another layer of all this. An emotional layer. The above article symbolized it in the form of the planet “Neptune”, used only because of it is a reference we all share in common. “Neptune” symbolizes our Understanding of “Love”.
It’s what I have been endeavoring to share. Our Understanding and what we imagine ‘love’ to Be, isn’t. This statement communicates volumes:
“How could a loving God keep me from Cub Scouts on account of not being able to afford a uniform?”
What kind of organization is it that places Value on the adornment of Our dust? And why We would desire to be a member of it? Values of the organization itself aside, *boohoo* poor little boy. Everything he wanted wasn’t handed to him on a platter. Why didn’t little boy go out and earn what was needed by knocking on doors and volunteering to do labor in exchange for a donation to his cause?
How about: “Would you care to donate a nickel for a good story at least?”
How about the underlying resentment in relationship to $$$, that exists as a deep motive? How much emotional sense of self worth and self esteem and self image is related to being “accepted” by those who HAVE $$$$?
During the “dust bowl” days in Oklahoma, rainmakers sold the ‘chance of rain’. Simple market skills…find what those who have money want and, sell it to them. Supply and demand, it’s what drives a market AND an “Economy”.
Ever considered that those of Us who have $$$ are just as unhappy and unfulfilled as those of us who don’t? Making a lot $$$ and having a lot of $$$$ doesn’t bring happiness OR security.
I’ve been there.
And I gave it all up to find what Genuinely matters, it terms of Happiness and Fulfillment. Or rather, I didn’t give it all up. I made investments. I invested in…
“things of value I carry with me everywhere I go.”
Values that are impossible to take or steal. Values that are secure no matter what the World does.
Values that I extend every opportunity I get.
I am fulfilled, all the time. So my cup ‘runneth over’.
It’s a lot different experience then feeling like a cup only half full, feeling unfulfilled. I’ve lived that one, too.
November 2nd, 2009 - 10:32 am
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