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		<title>By: Bumbling Bee &#171; Always Embraces All Ways</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bumbling Bee &#171; Always Embraces All Ways</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Sue Ann Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Ann Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah!  Now I Understand.  Thank you for your Patience with me and for expanding on your question so that I might understand.

I&#039;ve never done any future life astrology to be honest with you.  I will gladly share what I do know.

I know we take up exactly where we left off in terms of consciousness.

Senator Kennedy was a Pisces sun with a Virgo moon.  Michael Jackson was a Virgo sun with a Pisces moon.

Re-read what I wrote above, concerning Virgo and Pisces.   Both were Lions of Self expression but saddled with beliefs in guilt and fears of imperfection.  This creates issues BIG TIME in regards to &quot;Intimacy&quot;.

It is a statement all in itself how long they endured living in such intense states of inner conflict.  They endured much in the way of inner pain and suffering in order to fulfill the Passion of their Souls.

If it were me, I&#039;d desire to come back again, just to experience the joys of self expression FREED of all the judgments about it.  Lion in a cage one lifetime would create a desire within me to be a lion in the wild the next.

&quot;Old&quot; energy pattern is a bunch of lions in cages.  &quot;New&quot; energy pattern is a bunch of lions living wildly free.

It&#039;s difficult on the lion raised in captivity, to be set free to live in the wild, at an advanced age.   It&#039;s easier, more merciful, to come back as a cub born in the wild.  Where everything we think we know won&#039;t keep getting in our Soul&#039;s way.

I would look for Aquarius resonances for Mr. Kennedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah!  Now I Understand.  Thank you for your Patience with me and for expanding on your question so that I might understand.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never done any future life astrology to be honest with you.  I will gladly share what I do know.</p>
<p>I know we take up exactly where we left off in terms of consciousness.</p>
<p>Senator Kennedy was a Pisces sun with a Virgo moon.  Michael Jackson was a Virgo sun with a Pisces moon.</p>
<p>Re-read what I wrote above, concerning Virgo and Pisces.   Both were Lions of Self expression but saddled with beliefs in guilt and fears of imperfection.  This creates issues BIG TIME in regards to &#8220;Intimacy&#8221;.</p>
<p>It is a statement all in itself how long they endured living in such intense states of inner conflict.  They endured much in the way of inner pain and suffering in order to fulfill the Passion of their Souls.</p>
<p>If it were me, I&#8217;d desire to come back again, just to experience the joys of self expression FREED of all the judgments about it.  Lion in a cage one lifetime would create a desire within me to be a lion in the wild the next.</p>
<p>&#8220;Old&#8221; energy pattern is a bunch of lions in cages.  &#8220;New&#8221; energy pattern is a bunch of lions living wildly free.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s difficult on the lion raised in captivity, to be set free to live in the wild, at an advanced age.   It&#8217;s easier, more merciful, to come back as a cub born in the wild.  Where everything we think we know won&#8217;t keep getting in our Soul&#8217;s way.</p>
<p>I would look for Aquarius resonances for Mr. Kennedy.</p>
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		<title>By: tumel</title>
		<link>http://www.hera-kles.com/Blog/2009/07/17/bumbling-bee/comment-page-1/#comment-1555</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 01:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>argh Sueann, I do feel re-incarnation is such, as you explain, and when rereading my comment I saw that I did not put in the word new before life.

I have come to understand, through you,(I hope):) that Astrology is more about our souls journey through our present incarnation than it might be about our personalities.

So it was with this thought, that of our soul&#039;s journey, with  thoughts of karmic as well, that I wondered  when I read the post, a Lion passes, the significance, if any, of  the time of death from the present life.  Like, I feel we must carry with us, not in body, but in soul maybe, some rememberance of our past life, our dreams, our fears, our wish to do things differently maybe,whether it is consious or unconsious,  and just wondered does the time we die, meaning how things are aligned, the stars, the planets, or even that we might be in a certain sign, like Leo, now, would have bearing on when we do choose to return.

It was just a wonder anyway Sueann:) I think I was just wondering, will he return with the soul of a Leo.

and....:)

I think I must check my wonderings for a little time now, until my words are able to catch up:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>argh Sueann, I do feel re-incarnation is such, as you explain, and when rereading my comment I saw that I did not put in the word new before life.</p>
<p>I have come to understand, through you,(I hope):) that Astrology is more about our souls journey through our present incarnation than it might be about our personalities.</p>
<p>So it was with this thought, that of our soul&#8217;s journey, with  thoughts of karmic as well, that I wondered  when I read the post, a Lion passes, the significance, if any, of  the time of death from the present life.  Like, I feel we must carry with us, not in body, but in soul maybe, some rememberance of our past life, our dreams, our fears, our wish to do things differently maybe,whether it is consious or unconsious,  and just wondered does the time we die, meaning how things are aligned, the stars, the planets, or even that we might be in a certain sign, like Leo, now, would have bearing on when we do choose to return.</p>
<p>It was just a wonder anyway Sueann:) I think I was just wondering, will he return with the soul of a Leo.</p>
<p>and&#8230;.:)</p>
<p>I think I must check my wonderings for a little time now, until my words are able to catch up:)</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Ann Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Ann Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to check out the post at Surfaceearth&#039;s site.  A Lion, indeed, in deed.

Somewhere around ~here~ lately I mentioned that &quot;Freedom from pain and suffering&quot; is what is going around at this time.  Considering the Passion expressed by this particular Lion over the course of his Lifetime,  I can see why a new body would be desirable at this time.  Simply to enjoy riding the Wave he helped to create if nothing else.  Now that he got the ball rolling, it&#039;d be fun to  experience the momentum set in motion.

I had to think about your comment of &quot;To think of re-incarnation, is to think there is life after death&quot;.  It threw me for a loop.  Huh, what?

Because I don&#039;t usually relate or associate the two ideas.

I suppose just that statement kinda&#039; throws a wrench in your works, huh?  Don&#039;t worry, I won&#039;t just leave you hanging...

Let&#039;s look at the statement &quot;life after death&quot;, first.  Me, being me, ask, the death of what?  For it sure seems to me a lot of &quot;death&quot; talk concerns a or our Physical body.  The body is the only thing that &quot;dies&quot; and that only happens when the Life that was animating it, decides to withdraw.

Notice I said  &quot;Withdraw&quot;?  The reverse activity of &quot;extend&quot;?

Like if I was a scientist at a center for infectious diseases and stuck my hands inside rubber gloves in order to interact with something?  When I was through with interacting, I would withdraw my hands from the rubber gloves.

If I desired to interact again, I would again, extend myself into a set of rubber gloves. New ones this time because the old set got worn out through use.  This would be &quot;re-incarnation&quot;.

In order to interact in any dimension, we have to have a &#039;body&#039; composed of the substance of that dimension....a set of &#039;gloves&#039;.

If we have trouble with the idea of multiple &#039;bodies&#039; then I propose we contemplate the idea of an &#039;emotional body&#039; and a &#039;mental body&#039; that All of us are aware of having but not AWARE of, as different dimensional &#039;bodies&#039;.

&#039;Death&quot; is a &lt;em&gt;withdrawl&lt;/em&gt; from Self expression on ~this~  plane of activity, not a ~poof~ into non-existence.

Our blogs are doorways of self expression.  If we shut these doors, we would still exist, expressing ourselves along different avenues through different doorways.  Our blogs might &#039;die&#039; but we wouldn&#039;t. We might very well create another blog, with a new name when and if we felt like it.

Does that help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to check out the post at Surfaceearth&#8217;s site.  A Lion, indeed, in deed.</p>
<p>Somewhere around ~here~ lately I mentioned that &#8220;Freedom from pain and suffering&#8221; is what is going around at this time.  Considering the Passion expressed by this particular Lion over the course of his Lifetime,  I can see why a new body would be desirable at this time.  Simply to enjoy riding the Wave he helped to create if nothing else.  Now that he got the ball rolling, it&#8217;d be fun to  experience the momentum set in motion.</p>
<p>I had to think about your comment of &#8220;To think of re-incarnation, is to think there is life after death&#8221;.  It threw me for a loop.  Huh, what?</p>
<p>Because I don&#8217;t usually relate or associate the two ideas.</p>
<p>I suppose just that statement kinda&#8217; throws a wrench in your works, huh?  Don&#8217;t worry, I won&#8217;t just leave you hanging&#8230;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at the statement &#8220;life after death&#8221;, first.  Me, being me, ask, the death of what?  For it sure seems to me a lot of &#8220;death&#8221; talk concerns a or our Physical body.  The body is the only thing that &#8220;dies&#8221; and that only happens when the Life that was animating it, decides to withdraw.</p>
<p>Notice I said  &#8220;Withdraw&#8221;?  The reverse activity of &#8220;extend&#8221;?</p>
<p>Like if I was a scientist at a center for infectious diseases and stuck my hands inside rubber gloves in order to interact with something?  When I was through with interacting, I would withdraw my hands from the rubber gloves.</p>
<p>If I desired to interact again, I would again, extend myself into a set of rubber gloves. New ones this time because the old set got worn out through use.  This would be &#8220;re-incarnation&#8221;.</p>
<p>In order to interact in any dimension, we have to have a &#8216;body&#8217; composed of the substance of that dimension&#8230;.a set of &#8216;gloves&#8217;.</p>
<p>If we have trouble with the idea of multiple &#8216;bodies&#8217; then I propose we contemplate the idea of an &#8216;emotional body&#8217; and a &#8216;mental body&#8217; that All of us are aware of having but not AWARE of, as different dimensional &#8216;bodies&#8217;.</p>
<p>&#8216;Death&#8221; is a <em>withdrawl</em> from Self expression on ~this~  plane of activity, not a ~poof~ into non-existence.</p>
<p>Our blogs are doorways of self expression.  If we shut these doors, we would still exist, expressing ourselves along different avenues through different doorways.  Our blogs might &#8216;die&#8217; but we wouldn&#8217;t. We might very well create another blog, with a new name when and if we felt like it.</p>
<p>Does that help?</p>
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		<title>By: tumel</title>
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		<dc:creator>tumel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a little wonder  that came to mind Sueann, when reading a post at Surfaceearth&#039;s site, of a Lion passes and thinking after of re-incarnation and as well thinking that in Sidereal astrology the sign of Leo extends to September 13 .  In astrology much is written about the time in which we are born.  To think of re-incarnation, is to think there is life after death, so I just wonder if there is significance in the times we die as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a little wonder  that came to mind Sueann, when reading a post at Surfaceearth&#8217;s site, of a Lion passes and thinking after of re-incarnation and as well thinking that in Sidereal astrology the sign of Leo extends to September 13 .  In astrology much is written about the time in which we are born.  To think of re-incarnation, is to think there is life after death, so I just wonder if there is significance in the times we die as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Ann Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Ann Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That double helix keeps popping up all over the place, once we look inward.  It has all sorts of applications and implications.

It is in arranging magnets according to the pattern of chemical bonds, that a rotor can be manufactured, which will use the triangles of magnetic fields to create movement of the rotor.  This movement can then be turned into electricity.

The pattern is all there, within the helix itself.  All a helix is, is a circle, stretched out into 3 dimensions.  Like a slinky!

I began writing the aspects of the triangles and realized what a &#039;can of worms&#039; I had opened.  The more I wrote, the more that could be written.  So I&#039;ll be brief ~here~.

The 3 water signs represent different aspects of our emotional nature.  Cancer is self awareness; Scorpio is mutual awareness; Pisces is group awareness.  Cancer deals with our emotional foundation. Scorpio deals with our emotional exchange and, Pisces deals with our emotional fulfillment.

The 3 earth signs represent different aspects of our freewill.  Taurus is our desire nature.  Virgo is the purification and integration of our desire nature.  Capricorn is the achievement of our desire nature.

The 3 air signs deal with different aspects of our mind and expressing what&#039;s on it: communications.  Gemini deals with whether we think at all.  Libra deals with whether and what we think of others.  Aquarius deals with groups that think the same.

The 3 fire signs deal with different aspects of our urges towards Self expression.  Aries is Self expression, plain and simple.  Leo is Creative Self expression.  Sagitarrius is the expansion of Self expression.  &quot;All the world is a stage, to be explored, acted upon, understood and loved. &quot;

Water expresses confidence through meaningful emotional bonds.  Earth expresses confidence through mastery over matter.  Air expresses confidence through the exchange and development of ideas.  And Fire expresses confidence that life is essentially a meaningful adventure and that the purpose is to LIVE IT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That double helix keeps popping up all over the place, once we look inward.  It has all sorts of applications and implications.</p>
<p>It is in arranging magnets according to the pattern of chemical bonds, that a rotor can be manufactured, which will use the triangles of magnetic fields to create movement of the rotor.  This movement can then be turned into electricity.</p>
<p>The pattern is all there, within the helix itself.  All a helix is, is a circle, stretched out into 3 dimensions.  Like a slinky!</p>
<p>I began writing the aspects of the triangles and realized what a &#8216;can of worms&#8217; I had opened.  The more I wrote, the more that could be written.  So I&#8217;ll be brief ~here~.</p>
<p>The 3 water signs represent different aspects of our emotional nature.  Cancer is self awareness; Scorpio is mutual awareness; Pisces is group awareness.  Cancer deals with our emotional foundation. Scorpio deals with our emotional exchange and, Pisces deals with our emotional fulfillment.</p>
<p>The 3 earth signs represent different aspects of our freewill.  Taurus is our desire nature.  Virgo is the purification and integration of our desire nature.  Capricorn is the achievement of our desire nature.</p>
<p>The 3 air signs deal with different aspects of our mind and expressing what&#8217;s on it: communications.  Gemini deals with whether we think at all.  Libra deals with whether and what we think of others.  Aquarius deals with groups that think the same.</p>
<p>The 3 fire signs deal with different aspects of our urges towards Self expression.  Aries is Self expression, plain and simple.  Leo is Creative Self expression.  Sagitarrius is the expansion of Self expression.  &#8220;All the world is a stage, to be explored, acted upon, understood and loved. &#8221;</p>
<p>Water expresses confidence through meaningful emotional bonds.  Earth expresses confidence through mastery over matter.  Air expresses confidence through the exchange and development of ideas.  And Fire expresses confidence that life is essentially a meaningful adventure and that the purpose is to LIVE IT!</p>
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		<title>By: tumel</title>
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		<dc:creator>tumel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or maybe you sent this double helix design to me:) because this was exactly what popped into my mind too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or maybe you sent this double helix design to me:) because this was exactly what popped into my mind too!</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Ann Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Ann Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi {{tumel}}}  !!!

Before I responded about the triangles I wanted to go look something up.  I did and was thinking about it as I climbed into my bubble bath last night.  Maybe you were contemplating real hard because I picked up the double helix design while soaking in my tub?

Yes, our DNA is inter-dimensional.  It also changes as we change our pattern of thinking and our beliefs.  We begin to actually access more of what&#039;s there.

The triangles you&#039;ve noticed, lead to what has been called the &quot;science of triangles&quot; and is what Pythagoras used to formulate his Pythagorean theorem in the late 6th century BC.

I&#039;ll get to the triangles in a moment.  First, about the axis, as you asked.

The &quot;progression of the ages&quot; would be linked to the axis.  We&#039;re &#039;progressing&#039; now into &#039;aquarius&#039;.  2000 years ago, we shifted and progressed into &#039;Pisces&#039;.  This would have been the time of Christ.  2000 years before that, we progressed into &#039;Aries&#039; and up pops Moses.  2000 years before that, we progressed into Taurus and Egyptian bull cults flourished.  This progression of the idea of &quot;God&quot;, can be traced through history.

Now for more triangles...

On each cross there are 4 &#039;elements&#039;: fire, earth, air and water.  Fire connects to fire across all three crosses, water to water, earth to earth, air to air.

Be patient with me and by the end of today, I&#039;ll have the relationships of the elements&#039; triangles posted here for you, OK?

Yes, it really is kinda&#039; sad...to take something that has intrinsic beauty, like the cross and, impale a man on it, turning it into something not so pretty and distorting the whole imagery and idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi {{tumel}}}  !!!</p>
<p>Before I responded about the triangles I wanted to go look something up.  I did and was thinking about it as I climbed into my bubble bath last night.  Maybe you were contemplating real hard because I picked up the double helix design while soaking in my tub?</p>
<p>Yes, our DNA is inter-dimensional.  It also changes as we change our pattern of thinking and our beliefs.  We begin to actually access more of what&#8217;s there.</p>
<p>The triangles you&#8217;ve noticed, lead to what has been called the &#8220;science of triangles&#8221; and is what Pythagoras used to formulate his Pythagorean theorem in the late 6th century BC.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll get to the triangles in a moment.  First, about the axis, as you asked.</p>
<p>The &#8220;progression of the ages&#8221; would be linked to the axis.  We&#8217;re &#8216;progressing&#8217; now into &#8216;aquarius&#8217;.  2000 years ago, we shifted and progressed into &#8216;Pisces&#8217;.  This would have been the time of Christ.  2000 years before that, we progressed into &#8216;Aries&#8217; and up pops Moses.  2000 years before that, we progressed into Taurus and Egyptian bull cults flourished.  This progression of the idea of &#8220;God&#8221;, can be traced through history.</p>
<p>Now for more triangles&#8230;</p>
<p>On each cross there are 4 &#8216;elements&#8217;: fire, earth, air and water.  Fire connects to fire across all three crosses, water to water, earth to earth, air to air.</p>
<p>Be patient with me and by the end of today, I&#8217;ll have the relationships of the elements&#8217; triangles posted here for you, OK?</p>
<p>Yes, it really is kinda&#8217; sad&#8230;to take something that has intrinsic beauty, like the cross and, impale a man on it, turning it into something not so pretty and distorting the whole imagery and idea.</p>
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		<title>By: tumel</title>
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		<dc:creator>tumel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure if a link I made on a post I made came here or not, Sueann, so I just came here to ask:)  I found myself drawing these crosses out and when I was doing this I felt I must find a common thing in them, so I began connecting them, and saw a little liking to an image of DNA.  So I wonder is the evolution of our DNA the bridge or maybe the little stepping stones to these three crosses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure if a link I made on a post I made came here or not, Sueann, so I just came here to ask:)  I found myself drawing these crosses out and when I was doing this I felt I must find a common thing in them, so I began connecting them, and saw a little liking to an image of DNA.  So I wonder is the evolution of our DNA the bridge or maybe the little stepping stones to these three crosses.</p>
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		<title>By: tumel</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am just going to say what came into my mind when I read this Sueann, my first response:) I felt that in what I have read of the Holy Cross I have never come  across it being explained this way, and when I read it I thought that seeing the holy cross not as a crucifix but as a cross was so beautiful.  I found myself making the cross, father son and holy ghost and seeing that when I did it was like father, (head) son (belly botton) and holy ghost (sorta of like west to east.)  I thought then North, the father, south, the son, and holy ghost, whatever is in between, like one word but drawing it together.

I also found myself drawing this cross and connecting it which turned to triangles and thought of those in egypt, and noticed the four of these triangles.

I also remembered what I had read of this holy cross and picturing it northwest.  The stars there connecting this image of this cross.

And I wonder of the earths axil, its turning and how it affects what we see in the stars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just going to say what came into my mind when I read this Sueann, my first response:) I felt that in what I have read of the Holy Cross I have never come  across it being explained this way, and when I read it I thought that seeing the holy cross not as a crucifix but as a cross was so beautiful.  I found myself making the cross, father son and holy ghost and seeing that when I did it was like father, (head) son (belly botton) and holy ghost (sorta of like west to east.)  I thought then North, the father, south, the son, and holy ghost, whatever is in between, like one word but drawing it together.</p>
<p>I also found myself drawing this cross and connecting it which turned to triangles and thought of those in egypt, and noticed the four of these triangles.</p>
<p>I also remembered what I had read of this holy cross and picturing it northwest.  The stars there connecting this image of this cross.</p>
<p>And I wonder of the earths axil, its turning and how it affects what we see in the stars.</p>
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