I’m going to address the excellent questions {{jon}} has posed on his blog, Jon’s New Age Wanderings, “here”.
Question #1, “Is abortion OK and if not, why not?”
I really laid into one little lady who called looking for donations for her cause, which happened to be this one.
I pounded her into the ground, ROYALLY, for her presumptuousness in phrasing the question, “are you for abortion or are you pro life?” I mean it; I let her have it. I psychologically gutted her from the inside out, without one feeling of regret or remorse. And would do it again in a heartbeat. I refuse to feed such deceit as she was pandering and begging for my help to support. When I hung up on her, she was in tears and I was thinking ‘good riddance’.
“Pro-life my ass”, I thought, “she didn’t even so much as express any respect for it.”
It may be helpful if I shared that there is a BIG difference between our dust and the Life which animates it. A lot of blathering from bleeding hearts could be avoided if we distinguished Life, from the form it takes. Birth/death have NOTHING to do with Life except for being experiences of it.
If our Soul becomes unable to express itself through one “body” of form, either due to dissolution of the form or due to personality blocking it, it will find another form to express Itself through.
In short, I found the young lady’s attitude and understanding to be that of valuing and giving more meaning to dust, then to the Life that animates the dust. Where she imagined herself to be serving Love of Life, she is actually serving fear of death. So simply the phrasing of her question indicated she was coming from a place of self deceit. And it was just her plain *luck* that she called me, right in the middle of when I was cooking dinner.
The question of abortion is an individual decision, a choice made by the woman who is pregnant. It’s known as Liberty. And like I said to the little lady, “You have NO RIGHT to infringe upon anyone else’s Liberty, just because you’ve got emotional problems dealing with it. No one granted you a mortgage on their life. How DARE you think to suck the Liberty from others people’s lives in order to feed your own reality and then blather on about ‘love’ at the same time? ”
For factors in making this decision, let’s look at the depravity of our Society.
Why does the word “bastard” even exist?
Not all cultures see children in this same Light. And because of this, “Motherhood” is revered and supported.
LIKE IT ISN’T IN OURS.
Sue Ann Edwards
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February 23rd, 2008 - 8:45 pm
I like that question: why does the word “bastard” even exist? I forget where I first heard something like this: there are no bastard children, only bastard adults who think of a child as a bastard. One question I like to ask of those, so called, pro-lifers. How many unwanted babies have you adopted and taken into your home to be raised as your own? And I don’t let them off the hook when I do.
February 24th, 2008 - 1:50 pm
“there are no bastard children, only bastard adults who think of a child as a bastard”
Ohhhhh….I LIKE that one {{mary}}. THANK YOU for sharing. I bet an adult you shared that statement with doesn’t like the feel of being called “bastard” but never bothered to stop and think about the concept before you came along.
Dr. Stanislav Grof puts it another way: that we should give thought to the ways in which we satisfy our yearnings to parent. The need for us to have a biological child of our body is an issue of Vanity and ego, ONLY. So we can just add all the fertility clinics to your list, along with the pro-lifers.
He suggests we take a look at how much money is being spent in these vain pursuits that could be utilized actually caring for the children who are ‘here’ already.
As an adopted child myself, I sure wouldn’t have wanted to be adopted by anyone looking to use me to feed their Vanity or false Pride. I was adopted by a couple who genuinely loved children and didn’t care where or whom they came from. They simply considered themselves blessed because they got the chance to parent. All of us in my family were viewed as “Gifts”.
February 26th, 2008 - 12:59 pm
hi Sue Ann! Glad you stopped by so I could be reminded to come by here… but I’m leaving for a break, anyway.
I LOVE your answer to the abortion question!
Have a great day – I got more reading to do here.
February 26th, 2008 - 1:22 pm
Hi there {{CuriousC}} !!!
Hugs to you this day!
I’m in motion myself. Caught between two houses. I slept one place last night and am back to the other since the phone and internet have not been switched.
I’ll continue this way for the rest of the week but by the 1st of march, will be all settled again in my new location.
March 1st, 2008 - 3:19 am
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March 1st, 2008 - 3:21 am
Hi Sue Ann: Your answer was clear cut and to the point but also entertaining. I’m really enjoying your blog although I have alot of catching up to do. Look forward to new posts!
March 11th, 2008 - 6:19 pm
Greetings {{Amanda}} I have some catching up to do. I just moved my entire household and am just now getting back online again. With everything changed, of course. My old isp doesn’t work where I live now.
There are many questions that arise around this issue of abortion when seen from a perspective of polarity. I can offer a way to cut through the miasma of confusion and illusion by simply saying I define Life Itself as Self Expression.
Notice all the capital letters. Self = Totality = Whole = Absolute = God = Life = Unified Quantum Field.
When a babe has yet to be born and breathe its first breath, it is an expression of its Mother. Being “pregnant” is HER Self expression. IT’s only upon 1st breath that the babe is itself expressing and can be considered an individualized unit of self expression…an individual.
June 3rd, 2008 - 8:19 pm
One of the thoughts that has been slowly formulating in the back of my conciousness, and brought to awareness by this excellent discussion, is simply this: We ALL have our own beliefs, dogma’s, and reasonings. But in the end, what is the ultimate reality of things?
After 50 years, I have finally reached the serenity that allows me to accept the thoughts of others without feeling an impulse to change their minds. It is so liberating to be in a place where I can accept that others are what they are, and nothing is required of me, because ultimately we all bear final responsibility for what we have chosen to be.
June 4th, 2008 - 1:39 pm
Welcome {{morambler}}}!!!!
Thank you for sharing yourself with me!
Maybe it’s because by the time we reach 50, we’ve learned that the beliefs of others don’t matter as much as what we believe about ourselves.
We’ve learned to be mentally and emotionally flexible, adaptable and versatile…
I don’t know how many decades we go through striving and stressing about keeping the ‘negatives’ in life away from our door, they always show up eventually. After 50, we get to live with whatever we filled the potholes of our lives up with over the first 50 years.
Sounds to me like you made wise choices when it came to your potholes!
When it comes to this issue, I see our dust as altogether different then the Life that animates it. I see potentials as different then realizations, especially when it comes to individual Self expression.
Please BE {{{{welcome}}}}
Hugs.
June 5th, 2008 - 2:30 am
To share of oneself is also a gift to oneself!
Peace and Serenity
Shadows
June 5th, 2008 - 9:57 am
You bet {{Shadows of Enlightenment}}}!!!
The Joy is in the extension! I’ve been saying that extending Itself is what Love, DOES. Just for the Joy of it.
Laughing…even if no one listened to anything I said, I still heard it! Like making love to myself….and I’m a very good listener!
Welcome, welcome!!!!!
{{{Thank You}}}} for sharing YOURSELF with me!!!!!!
Hugs.
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