The 7 Stages of Life
A Sacred Journey
Birth
Awareness of Self. It is the first stirring of awakening outside our ‘ego’, that prompts us to reach out for that life long spiritual quest for Truth. It is the first intuitive Knowing that we are indeed part of a Greater Whole. It is the first step in remembering who we ARE.
Within the moment of Birth, is the certainty that our egos are only a small integral part of who we are and that there has always been an anchor of Love within our Hearts, called Self, that has always been an eternal guiding essence.
It corresponds to the 6th Ray, or God attribute. Expansion of service, sustaining power and spiritual nourishment come under this ray, the radiating of spiritual vitality to all life as well as to mankind. It represents Grace, Devotion and Ministration. It is the ray of tranquility, healing, mercy, forgiveness and, the ministration of Christ. It is the desire to be of service through the Mastery of the Christ Consciousness.
Its color is Ruby, for it symbolizes the Blood of Christ that carries the very source of Life by way of the Sacred Breath directly from God, Divine Source. Merging with the Sacred Breath of Life is the key to the first step of enlightenment of Self.
When we come upon this awareness of Self, a shift in consciousness occurs and, we find a lot of our desires and needs shifting to becoming secondary to our quest for the Light. This change in attitude, in consciousness, builds momentum for the Sacred Breath, the Blood of Christ, to flow freely without hindrance throughout all our dimensional levels of Self.
So is this our Birth to becoming aware of our own Divinity, for this is the first of these divine gifts we can open our Hearts to receive.
The first gift we give to ourselves on our Birthday.
S.E.
KoraKaos
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michael j contos
August 31st, 2007 - 5:13 pm
Hey Sue
,
A question about the crown chakra:
I’ve heard that the crown chakra is only fully activated once one is reaching full awakening; I understand that the crown chakra is at the very top of the head, in the middle between the ears; can you provide any information on sensation/energy dynamics as the crown chakra activates?
Feeling top-heavy, (very top heavy), activated sensation above the 3rd eye chakra, a sort of a feeling as if you’re wearing a hat (activated all the way around the edge of the head)?
I’m feeling the shift from me-consciousness (what do I need, etc) to full consciousness (just pretty much completeness with the world, essentially), and I’m wondering what to expect next as the shift occurs.
Also – the fear of death; what can you say about the transformation from having this fear to not having it? Something like Yeager in that plane about to break the sound barrier, I feel that barrier very clearly right now; T-minus 10 minutes?
I’m a bit soft in the head (giddy) at the moment, but I don’t suppose that’s a bad thing.
Show me the flower Sue!
Smiling,
Joe
August 31st, 2007 - 8:36 pm
Hi Joe!
Now how did you know I had been pondering the subject of aligning and balancing our spiritual chakras?
Did you put the subject out there already?
Yes, you describe the opening or activation actually, of the crown chakra. It corresponds to the pineal gland. It starts standing straight up and vibrating.
It’s color is Violet, representing freedom.
It is the ‘opening’ through which the energies of the higher dimensional frequencies integrate through. It’s like an aperature.
‘As above meets down below’.
And the crown is where they meet, becoming One.
It’s expression is that of purification, transmutation, redemption and magnetization. It’s represent the Divine Alchemy that resurrects and perfects energy.
It is also ceremonial, in that in gives the ability to consciously change the quality of energy at Will, within Self and the world around us. So it gives both opportunity in individual development and world service.
It symbolizes the Universal Law of Transmutation.
It’s Essence is that of Self Forgiveness.
It terms of the many petaled lotus, another layer of your bloom is unfolding.
The heaviness, the feeling of your brain expanding inside your skull, the feeling that the back of your head just disappeared and now you’ve got the Universe there instead….
Bravo!
September 1st, 2007 - 7:46 am
I guess maybe I did put the subject out.. it’s something that I’ve been pondering for a bit, expanded awareness definitely makes people aware of their own chakras (or “energy vortices”).
I was going around to garage sales looking for books to sell at the local bookstore, and happily, I came across the book “Intermediate Studies of the Human Aura” by Djwal Kul; It is an in-depth study on chakras, with amazing full-color pictures. I was pleasantly surprised to find it, I didn’t know that there were books like it, but there it was!
In this post you were speaking about the first gift, and I was pondering yesterday the receiving of the last gift, which is received just before essentially everything in life becomes a gift, between oneself and all others.
In some parts of the world today, the process of enlightenment is difficult; the buddhist understanding of the names of the 3 “great poisons” are
aggressiveness, attachment, and ignorance.
This does not mean ignorance in the form of bigotry or small-mindedness; it means ignorance in the form of lack of understanding of spiritual truth. I say that in some parts of the world enlightenment is difficult, because there is very little information out there which can be obtained from a brother, or a neighbor, or a close friend, for many people. Our society is not a spiritual one.
Where in some countries there are monasteries, etc, for the study of things like chakras, compassion, enlightenment, etc, in this country such things are few and far between, and sometimes it’s a question of whether they really know what they’re talking about, who their leaders are, etc.
My own feeling in trying to decipher the path that I’m taking, and what spiritual wisdom can be gleaned from it, what to expect next, etc, is one of difficulty in finding established wisdom.
We need people who are comfortable in “left field”, who can show us the way to what is essentially the truly most comfortable place to be in life – in left field.
I think Sue, that the subject is out there, because it is an important subject, and naturally we both are recognizing this fact together. If our intent is to educate, and to teach, and to assist enlightenment, then synchronicity will occur and harmony will exist; the most purely essential, direct and helpful way to do so will be made manifest.
If we want to create bridges, they will form around us and before us. If we want to heal division, walls will dissipate around us. If we want to achieve harmony for everyone, we will find harmony resonating all around us.
The great power in enlightenment comes from the pure spirit which rests within us, not from ourselves directly. I still believe that this is true, but it doesn’t mean that we aren’t ourselves part of this spirit as well. We do not own any aspect of
the enlightenment.
The teacher has no disciples, and the disciple has no teachers; this is because the totally enlightened do not lay claim to any human relationship. The love is there, the compassion is there, the harmony is there, the pure relationship is there; but we do not say “I possess this brotherhood/sisterhood”.
Yet the brotherhood/sisterhood is there, in all of its happy compassion-driven way.
I think that part of what makes people want to possess relationships is the recognition that one day, this person will be gone, whether by death, or by distance of miles. We don’t want that to happen, so in some way of feeling, we want to hold onto that person.
This is itself division; it is anti-harmony. I went off on a tangent here but essentially this is part of the idea of our creative force, for the creative force comes from purity of spirit, and purity of spirit is outside of any form of attachment, just as it is outside of any form of ignorance or aggressiveness.
So speaking in terms of chakras, I think that reading your words on the first gift, while I am experiencing the reception of the last gift, made me aware that you are exploring how to describe the subject as a whole; we begin to recognize unity in everything – this and that are one, and so you can see what is between this and that, and you can see the connections between all other things from this, and from that.
Infinity is basically the number 1. It can also be the set {1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1}, on into infinity. Inside each of the 1′s in that or any other set of 1′s, are infinitely more sets of 1′s.
When you are enlightened, you need only know that 1=1, and you will have the whole picture. If this makes sense to whoever reads this, then you as an individual are fully capable of understanding infinity. It is only hard to grasp if you try to understand it in a way that is less or more than what it actually is.
I’m kind of all over the map with this post, but the flow of ideas is there, I think.
Sue: Your creative force is the same creative force which every other fully enlightened individual in the world is working with, right now, all around the world. Can you feel this truth, in the essence all around you? (E-sense)
Pick up a Taoism book or two, I think that at ” ” is amazing for teaching on tapping into the essence.
I know that you are very tapped in already, but some of the notions in Taoism are vital as well to “tapping in”. Read the foreword in the book, it in itself is almost worth buying the book alone.
I think that’s everything for now, take care Sue! I will speak with you again soon.
-Joe
September 1st, 2007 - 7:56 am
Sue – could you fix the link in my last comment? The tag should be “this one”. I didn’t, but I thought I’d typed it correctly! I seem to keep doing that, but no worries!
-Joe
September 1st, 2007 - 8:16 am
Sue, feel free to delete this last comment if you wish, or keep it here, but I had a question on something I said in the first comment:
Is what I said (referenced below) correct or incorrect? Is this part of the nihilism which I’ve fallen victim to in the past? Is it somewhat true, but am I missing something in the ideas?
SNIPPET
The great power in enlightenment comes from the pure spirit which rests within us, not from ourselves directly. I still believe that this is true, but it doesn’t mean that we aren’t ourselves part of this spirit as well. We do not own any aspect of
the enlightenment.
The teacher has no disciples, and the disciple has no teachers; this is because the totally enlightened do not lay claim to any human relationship. The love is there, the compassion is there, the harmony is there, the pure relationship is there; but we do not say “I possess this brotherhood/sisterhood”.
Yet the brotherhood/sisterhood is there, in all of its happy compassion-driven way.
I think that part of what makes people want to possess relationships is the recognition that one day, this person will be gone, whether by death, or by distance of miles. We don’t want that to happen, so in some way of feeling, we want to hold onto that person.
This is itself division; it is anti-harmony.
END SNIPPET
September 1st, 2007 - 9:54 am
Hello Sue And Joe I read this thread and its so where i am i can barely type a sentance at the moment and my third eye has been upgraded to broadband. I can relate to all of the expanding head and stuff. I have been chaneling source energy and it came through so strong when i asked for source and not GOD i realise that my god tag was limiting because i had lots of limiting connotations associated with the word so source asked me to ask for source. I was a tube with an ocean of love and energy pouring in to all on earth as well as the earth herself. Last night a lad won big btother over here and he did it by using the law of attraction after reading a book earlier in the year and he is a really simple but loving guy….. Its happening..
September 1st, 2007 - 11:13 am
{{Joe}}
Ok, so now I’ve had my first cup of tea and have taken care of the link in your first comment.
Had there been a ‘this one’, in the second comment, I would have been happy to leave it there.
rofl…
Care to do a ‘do over’?
September 1st, 2007 - 11:40 am
{{Joe & Dean}}
We’re at the doorstep of the shift right now. if we’re looking for anything we could see with our physical eyes, nothing is happening. Nor will it appear like anything is happening for a little while…
A Grace period…between cause and effect. ‘Things’ will shift first on the inside, followed by changes precipitating on the outside.
It’s a shift in consciousness, an expansion of awareness. ‘Where’ ever we are, we’re epxanding to the next level. We take the ‘stairs to heaven’ one step at a time.
It often feels like we’re right on the edge of something. Like we keep gently bumping up against a thin bubble, like a membrane. We desire fervantly to get past that membrane. We can FEEL it, we can SENSE it, we just can’t see it clearly nor truly understand what it is, with the darn membrane in our way.
It feels exhilerating and exciting and frustrating and annoying all at the same time.
That about sum it up?
9 – 18 – 2007
Everything after that date will be carrying a resonance of the ‘new paradigm’.
And I guess it would help if more of us understood what’s ‘new’ about the ‘new’.
For we have never been this way in consciousness before. We’re not shifting back to ‘feminine’ energy being dominant again, like it was before the ‘masculine’ became dominant.
Balance is not just something experienced briefly as we run from one extreme to another. ‘Feminine’ is coming it to fuse with ‘masculine’.
The whole IDEA of DOMINANCE is ‘being thrown out the window’.
And the KNOWING of CREATION is being set in its place.
His-story move over. Make equal room for hers.
Notice that a LOT of ‘holy men’ and writers of spiritual texts have been men?
And the one thing NO man has an awareness of, is what it is like to carry an idea from conception to birth. How it has to be fed. And nurtured, through the Body of the Mother.
What we, Humanity, have not recognized, is the essence, the value and the role of Divine Mother.
When it comes to dancing, it takes more strength to follow then it does to lead.
Grinning.
September 1st, 2007 - 11:46 am
Sue:
We’re mixing things up here
The “buddhist understanding” link was okay.
It was the Taoism book link which wasn’t in the correct format.
I’ll just post the links now!
Buddhist Philosophy
Taoism Book
What do you think of what I posted earlier? I’m curious to hear. Especially on what I wrote on the 3rd post. If you’re unsure, maybe we can figure it out together?
Dean (Scott?): Meditation has a certain place in one’s spiritual journey, but it is not the end all and be all, it will not take you all the way. What will take you all the way is careful examination of self, coupled with doing inner work to clear yourself of negative notions or incorrect ideas (density).
It takes years usually; I’m not sure what else to say, but I too meditated at one time, and at the time it was a help to me, but “success” on a show like big brother isn’t anything that an enlightened person would seek.
Maybe I’m being small-minded in this regard, but the ways of seeking for oneself are the opposite of the ways of enlightenment.
Everyone’s path is different, but there is something to say for being grounded generally; enlightenment does not come from channeling energy or anything like that.
Your realization upon letting go of your fixed notions of God was a clearing of density; the reason that you feel somewhat unbalanced by your “channeling of source energy”, is that it may not be something which you think it is.
Enlightenment does not come from manipulating one’s energies.
I once practiced Aikido, and involved in Aikido is focusing on one of the chakras and magnifying its energy; I’ve only experienced negativity from this, in the form of an unbalanced system. The reason that I was doing it was that I wanted to control my surroundings, for reasons of fear, insecurity, and other reasons. It wasn’t a healthy practice.
If you let things happen naturally, you will find enlightenment. If you try to manipulate, control, or “assist” the flow of your own vital life energy, or to “tap in” to energy through meditation or focusing, you will only unbalance your system/mind/etc.
True meditation, at its heart, is not manipulation, or controlling, or directing energy. It is simply being mindful of the Source, while being true to oneself. Accepting things for what they are.
I do recognize and believe that you have had a spiritual breakthrough, but it is important to realize that these enlightenments happen because we ourselves change, who we are as people changes; not from trying to direct or control our own energies.
If you have any questions about this, please do ask, but it’s important that you know this.
-Joe
September 1st, 2007 - 12:34 pm
{{{joe}}}
The thing about the ‘poisons’ is true. But I wouldn’t so much call them ‘poisons’, as I would blinders.
There are a great deal of experiences we can’t experience without those blinders. OK, so the experiences are based on illusions, on maya.
That doesn’t negate the experiential value of what it felt like. That nightmare sure felt real while I was in the middle of it!
Ignorance is the result CREATED when we choose to ignore something. I’m ignorant of brain surgery because I chose to ignore it.
It doesn’t mean it is ‘bad’, as the label ‘poison’ suggests. It simply means that if I desire some experience other then “ignorance”, I need to change the direction of my thoughts.
‘Aggressiveness’ comes from believing in ideas and concepts of dominance. And the whole ‘light vs dark’ and ‘good vs ‘bad’ is all polluted with concepts of dominance.
Polarity/duality operates by cutting Creation in two, then setting both halfs against each other for dominance. Dark/light, good/bad, higher self/lower self. Divinity/human.
So I come along and say:
I’d rather be a Comlete Idiot then half Right any day. If I only have half a mind to do something, I don’t DO it.
rofl.
And attachment…that’s the biggie…
The final letting go of attachments occurs at the stage called ‘crucifixion’. This stage end with the death or detachment of our lessor ego self. It’s a stage of TOTAL surrender.
It’s not painful, it’s not filled with any suffering and by the time we get to this stage, it’s not scarey, either.
If feels like ‘someone’ making Love to you from the inside, out. Brings a Whole new understanding to the phrase ‘playing with ourself’.
It’s a complete transference of Identity from ‘puny human’ to Spirit, in WHO we know ourselves to be.
Then the Resurrection begins.
Before, our bodies were an expression of our lessor ego self and what resurrects, is what is within. The message of the Phoenix. Dies in the fires of transmutation and rises again, a glorious bird, from its own ashes.
Under ‘crucifixion’, I was the incredible shrinking woman as within, I collapased into a singularity. I’m 5′ 7″ tall and I ended up weighing a total of 111 pounds.
Now, I’m gaining weight. I’m creating substance of expression. And don’t ask me where it’s going. I’ll let you know when I get there. In the meantime, the child within me still likes surprises. And that’s hard to experience if I know everything ahead of time.
Now to write about the next stage, “Baptism”.
What I did was go through the path thus far, with my ‘eyes’ wide open all the way. Intuitively groping my way as I went. Same thing we all do.
Enter left field and get lost in the forest of the trees. I know these trees. And once I know a particular thicket someone else is in, I know what directions outta’ there to share. But I have to share those directions, from outside the thicket.
If I go in, then we’d both be stuck.
And that’s why sometimes I’m called ‘tenacious’. Because I won’t go into the thicket but I won’t leave anyone lost in it, either.
September 1st, 2007 - 12:48 pm
{{{{hugs all around}}}
This is funny.
‘dean’ meet ‘joe’
‘joe’ meet ‘dean’.
east meet west.
you each know the part of the puzzle the other doesn’t.
you each are releasing yourselves from various veils of self denial.
just not the same ones….
you each have had experiences with others, since your recent shifts, hoping to help others acccomplish the same deed. But were each frustrated.
the moment is NOW to experience what you each had in mind.
The same Mind and Soul is in each of you, as it is within me .
I described it this way one time. We have cut mankind in two. The east, thinks but doesn’t create. The west, creates without thinking. Numbnuts and numbskulls. What a choice!
Be a Whole person and go forth and multiply.
September 1st, 2007 - 1:59 pm
Sue (smiling):
In the middle of a thicket, if you can’t find your way out with words, it’s good to have a guitar with you, yes? Something’s bound to hear the tune and come to greet you, pull you out and put you in the orchestra.
I’m all talked out, now it’s just a matter of taking time. At this moment, reason escapes me, meaning is replaced with meaningful.
I’ve got a pain at the exact central point of the crown of my head – it hurts when I press on it, sometimes when I don’t. It feels something like an orb resting partway in my skull and partway above it.
Somehow, meaning itself is incomplete, I mean not for me, but ultimately meaning itself. Meaning can only be a representation? Meaningful, what is that?
I occasionally fast, for 18 hour periods of time, I’m going to fast tomorrow. The peculiarity of a fast is that whatever you expected going into it, is never what it becomes; it’s probably best not to have any expectation whatsoever then. This is the first time that I’ve fully accepted that, going into it.
The Way, the Path of Taoism, is meaningful. It can’t be defined with meaning. 1=1 is not even an approximation, it is a signpost.
Dean: Follow the Path, don’t circle the signposts.
What else to say? Sometimes the most necessary expression is only allowing the passage of time.
September 2nd, 2007 - 9:39 am
Hello Sue And Joe Today i got the words “go forth and multiply” as i was sitting contemplating this morning before reading this. This energy is allways there it is me allowiing myself to align with who i am. I am flowind rathere thatn swimming upstream. The more i allow the more easy it becomes to see where i am holding myself back.
Meditation is the closest thing i can describe this communion with all that is we all are. I can literally feel the energies of the countless other selves that have gone before snd i can feel different selves flowing in this oneness through me and my distinction between myself and the otherself selves is diminishing…
Yes i am being made love too from the inside out!!
This manipulation of energy is the alignment of myself with the divuine creative essesnce of life so truly it is my declaration of my sovereign ability to hold and maintain my own energies at my own behest it is the realisation that no other has any control over my energies without me allowing that to happen.
Joe it is good to meet you. Then there were three and the snowball got bigger..
The big brother reference was to show that the mainstream is getting the idea that they have control over their own destiny and is a sign that even those in that material level are beginning to awaken.. He just asked for an adventure and to meet a lovely lady using the principles of the law of attraction.. the universe has taken big brother an all seeing eye propaganda for control of the masses show, and a soul has gone in there who has demonstrated the law of attraction albeit in a materialist way. I believe this energetic imprint left behind demonstrates to those stuck n that layer of density the way out… Eventually they will find money isnt all that relevant to what has been shown.. \but it was grounded in the material reality they are currently in.
yes its a signpost ! i am one ! we all are !density steppers bringing up the veil in ourselves and leaving that in the energy of all on this world
I am a volunteer i came to do this walk to leave a path and gather the 100th monkey which will pop the membrane for all. The time of awakening is now because we asked for it..
the three poisons are only so if we focus our attention there. If we embrace the darkness even in fear it merges with the light and becomes balanced, polarity comes when we run from one to the other in fear of the other not being enough or being too much.
Established wisdom… good for a sign post but arent you just listening to a recording rather than playing the music yourself ? ALL YOU NEED IS IN YOU inside ..source waiting for you to call it forth consciously or unconsciously.. Focus ther see what happens when you call it forth..
changing energy at will = moving from that which does not serve in the way we wish, to that which serves us better..
ONE PLUS ONE EQUALS ONE
September 2nd, 2007 - 10:16 am
I do feel that i own my own enlightenment because i called it forth by my own seeking. i and the creator are one so it must be me ! i am not lesser becaues i am not as expanded as source i am a small cell in this body on the leading edge of it as we all are and just out there beckoning us is Sue Ann and through her and us source is walking the leading edge of this density in this now. We ere honoured Loved and so admired by those that have merged with source and experience through us in non physical..
THis comes home to me not as new knowledge but as ancient it is a remembering not a first time experience ascending this wave of awakening on a planet we are the specialist team who lay the tracks for the rest to bring their equipment in..
This i remember and we are honoured and loved beyond measure, just ask source to let it in.. sometimes its hard to distinguish in the writing between self other you and Sue and Joe…
My date of birth is on 29/09/69 im ready its why i came.. !!
ACCEPTING THINGS AS THEY ARE well yes if you want to stay where you are. Accepting that i have all i need in me rifght now allows me to accept the world for what it is and stop trying to fix it. It allows me to be who i am and others will follow by osmosis mostly.. Directig energies is essential to creating that whichserves you creatively how else could i be a musician or dj those energies in turn uplift and raise other energies . Directing the release of energies is what causes one to change by aligning with the source ,this is the same as surrender and is only really an intention rather than moving energy. much Jumping in the stream and lying back and going with it rather than swimming..
I guess im saying that directing energies is wht you do when you co create that which we came to do. We are not about complete surrender to a gods will to follow something we have not much interest in. We are here to do that which we love in service to others s they know it can be done and people can fee themselves of the fer of thios or that or of the need to control others or society.. live and let live by setting the example energetically and physically in the material plane for the first time… fully wakened source connected beings on earth balaced in male and female..
By the way sue i stood up for fair money rent and treatment by my lanlord (authority figures ) no more meek subjugation.. i cleared a 700 pounds worth of debt in a week.. Yay poverty …. see ya… abundance is allowing it to comes form anywhere by following the flow… ( i found it ) which means being in tune with all that is inside to save yiourself running around like a headless chicken like most of humanity..
September 2nd, 2007 - 11:05 am
Hi Sue & Others
,
Sue you talked earlier about rebirth, cruxefiction, resurrection, etc; In Japanese Buddhism there is a branch of Buddhism which is called the “Pure Land teaching”. It originated in Japan.
Essentially what this teaching teaches, is that by surrending oneself fully to the transformative power of the “nembutsu” (the Buddha Mind/Spirit), a transformation can occur in one’s inner life, and they will be “reborn into the pure land”.
This is Nirvana, freedom from desire, freedom from death, freedom from suffering. It is said that all true Paths lead to the same place, and this is a certainty. But all true Paths involved inner work, with utter honesty and truth involved. I think we all recognize this and know its truth.
We know that it’s true because we experience this transformative power in our daily lives. We experience this transformative power because we have faith in its existence, we have belief and do not doubt. Anyone can find this truth, if they only honestly look.
So, we are pursuing Nirvana, freedom from suffering, freedom from fear, freedom from desire. And we find it by total surrender, complete recognition that we as human beings are spiritual creatures, and ultimately we are purely spirit.
What is spirit, then? It is boundless.
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
So then, lets take a look at the notion of a “paradigm”. What is the definition for the word “paradigm”?
“A model, or a pattern.”
What is the definition for “paragon”?
“A perfect model, or pattern.”
Do we find ourselves pursuing the “perfect paradigm” (“perfect pattern”)?
But here is the transformative question:
Can a model, or pattern be boundless?
The only true boundlessness is the nature of “infinite”. Not infinity; Infinity is a concept; infinite is an actuality.
This is what I’m getting at: In Nirvana, there is no paradigm.
We each, in our most pure form, are creatures of transformation. We each have ownership of a creationary, transformative force, to bring about total change in the world around us.
Density puts restrictions on the possible nature of the change. Density is inherently negative, so it restricts the positivity which we can enable to occur in the world around us.
Paradigms are existence within set bounds; No-Paradigm existence does not separate one possible world from another, or define the world in any fixed or divided way.
Infinity is a concept, therefore it holds knowledge and understanding to a set definition; Infinite is everything.
This is a difference between “signposts”, and realities. Signposts can define bends and turns in the Path, but they cannot show realities.
Signposts tell you about things, Reality shows you things. Reality is the actual experience.
In the Nirvana-state, nothing is in the way to block transformative power. Paradigms are the same as mental boxes. If we imagine that we live in a paradigm, we are limiting the possibilities of our experiencing of our world in the broadest way possible.
What are we then? World citizens. Universal citizens. We are not citizens of division.
This is what you are talking about Sue, when you say that the leaders of the world are living in the old paradigm. They’re still trying to take from the world, for themselves.
Why has generation Y sprung up? It was the initial flowering of the recognition that there is no reason for the old paradigm. We ask “why?”, because we recognize its uselessness.
We pursue Nirvana, because we want to be free from the old limitations, in our own lives. If we pursue, we will find.
Soon the lines will begin to meld together, the boundaries will fade, in a world-wide sense. I’ve been able to recognize this for some time, but I’ve never been able to put it into the right words to explain it fully.
The new paradigm, is “No-paradigm”. It is on the way, and the Way to make it through is embodied inside of each one of us, individually, and as a whole.
There is much more to say, but this is the general outline.
September 2nd, 2007 - 11:47 am
Greetings!
I’m sitting down today and making up a chart. Joe, I know you mentioned something about a pictorial kind of display.
One of the things this display will reveal, is the level of awareness ABOVE the ‘I Am Presence”, which is about as far as any of the previus ‘buddha’s’ of activity ever got.
Symbolically speaking, this may have been defined and described as ‘nirvana’ before but…
that has to do with Moses kinda’ laying down his shovel, lighting his Camel, sitting on his ass and, saying he’d found the promised land…
there’s more to be ‘had’. Like I said, our eastern beliefs aren’t much when it comes to Creativity, for that involves Passion and, having negated it already, impotence and childlessness is then the name of the game.
‘greater buddhas of activity’ in complete domination and rejection of the ‘lessor buddha’s of activity’. that equals half, not whole. fission, not fusion. seperation not unity.
Above the “I Am Presence”, symbolically the 12th chakra, is the White Dove.
Symbol of the Holy Spirit/Shekinah/the Mother/Feminine aspect of ‘God’ or ‘Tao’.
Tao’s emotional nature.
God’s emotional nature.
May the Shekinah of our Hearts give forth Its Light to heal ourselves and all upon our beloved world!
The Creative energies of Shekinah…I guess that would make that numerically #13.
Hmmm…the number 13 has always meant ‘transformation’.
A ‘new’ paradigm, is a ‘new’ pattern of thought. One that happens to be free of contradiction and conflict. The moment energy is imagined, it comes into being, so don’t give me any formlessness out of formless stuff. The minute a thought is thunk a form has been called forth from ‘formlessness’. The end results of seeking to think no thoughts, to imagine nothing, is the same thing as a fruit tree that produces no fruit or, the servant so afraid of misusing his talents, that he buries them.
It’s NOT ‘wrong’ to desire…
What’s ‘wrong’ if anything, are all the judgments and qualifications of ‘wrongness’. AND. not ‘or’.
Imagine ideas are like sperm. Men are wonderful with coming up with them out of thin air. But these ideas, like sperm, are of no use and cannot come to fruition, without nurturing. Without a womb. An engineer cannot transform a set of drawings into an actual building without giving the idea a lot of attention. “Mother” of Consciousness…..a womb with a view.
The thing about mental abstractions is that there is no pulling Power, no attraction, fueled by any desire. I can admire a beautiful mathematical equation but it will never bring an experience of warm fuzzies to me, emotionally. Emotionally, all math feels like sterilty.
Desire and aspire are the same energy. Of the same little buddha of activity. WILLpower.
What we are doing, is aspiring to Love ourselves more. Express a Loving Will, instead of just a ‘good one’. That’s different then distancing and detaching ourselves to such a great degree as to imagine we don’t need to feel Love, nor have no Will of our own.
{{{BIG HUGS}}}}
September 2nd, 2007 - 12:01 pm
Hi Dean,
I hear you, I understand. I think that we each have taken different Paths, but each is valid.
We each have something to learn from the other.
When I was young I was quite an out-of-control kid, but not in a bad way. I was living freeform and ultimately thought well of everyone. But I was not disciplined, and ultimately I spent my time partying and ended up in an unhappy way of life for a long while (18-28, 10 years).
My path has been one of tempering discipline; inner discipline; refining and tempering my spirit with not severity, but tenacity and willpower. It has served me well in some ways, but once you have mastered yourself, tenacity and willpower become severity in some way.
I’m learning to let loose again; I bought a guitar and my playing has markedly improved, as I’ve softened up and allowed myself to express myself, without the tightened grip of discipline.
I still have to eat well, can’t drink or anything, because my health goes south very quickly if I do. I bicycle everywhere that I go, probably about 20-25 miles/day.
My mind has become sharp as a razor’s edge, my capabilities of expression are lucid and precise. I think that this has just been what I’m supposed to do, to become who I need to be.
I recognize that living healthy and becoming disciplined has been my Way; but once something is established in a person there’s no reason to continue developing in that way. It becomes counterproductive.
Maybe this speaks to you in some way?
Strength comes from a multitude of places, speaking in the yin/yang sense, a woman’s strength is in the power of yin – passivity itself can be a great strength, though it seem counter-intuitive to believe it is so.
But life is about balance – bringing one’s being into full balance, the rational and the experiential, the yin and the yang, etc.
All True Ways Lead to the Source – Sue, you’ve created something here!
-Joe
September 2nd, 2007 - 12:19 pm
Sue you’ve completely misunderstood me
, I’m not talking about formlessness. I’m talking about infinite.
Please go back and read my post again with this in mind.
Infinite embodies all forms. It is without boundary, yet it is everything all at once.
I’m talking about EVERYTHINGness, not nothingness. How could infinite be thought of as nothing?
I’m going to be honest with you Sue, I think that together, in speaking with one another, we’ve both been becoming more enlightened in the process. It hasn’t only been a one-way street. I’ve gotten a sense that one of us may feel that it has been. I say this with total love, it’s just a sense that I’ve gotten.
And I think that perhaps there is a duality happening here – you possess one half, and I possess the other, and we are experiencing this battle between them in our communication. We say the same things, but we perceive the density which each of us faces against in the other.
We need to think with the universal 13th Chakra, not our own 7th. Does this make sense?
Nirvana is still what it always has been – everythingness. Every Buddha in history knew this, every patriarch in ancient China. The error is the we in the U.S. misunderstand their teachings, because of misunderstood meanings of words.
Do not discount a valid Path. But where are we going wrong? What are we each not facing? What is this duality?
Are we understanding each other here?
Utter Respect,
Joe
September 2nd, 2007 - 1:09 pm
{{{joe}}}
I know the thicket…I know the thicket…
And yes…Sitting on their asses, ‘umming’ a few bars…about sums it up. THE BAR HAS BEEN RAISED. There is naother floor above what was thought of as the ceiling. ‘All that is’, is just a bit bigger then previously imagined.
Life is a flow, it doens’t stagnate.
I am extremely familar with Buddhist teachings. Extremely.
When you say ‘think with the universal chakra’, I say, “go ahead and TRY”. The energy is not that of thought. It is FELT. We can’t THINK our way there.
EVERY path is valid for they all lead to the same place.
The Universal Feminine is NOT passive btw. That’s coming from the same man made up stuff as the rest, including but not limited to, the ‘everythingness of nirvana’.
“Let’s throw away our shovels, light up our Camels, sit on our asses, we have found the promised land.”
That’s simply been an excuse for laziness and justification for a heirarchy of preists and potentates.
There is GOLD is any and every single one of our belief systems. It just has to be purified of all the dross.
That’s what the opening of the crown chakra is all about. Crown chakra is symbolically #7. After the activity of #7, has purified and aligned all activity of 1-6, then we expand to #8. After we align and integrate that with 1-7, we expand to #9. Etc., etc., etc….until we expand to touch the Heart of the Dove.
It’s an immersion into feeling and sensing, that thinking will get us no place with. But you’ll find that out for yourself.
Of course, everything is in Respect. We’re having fun.
Otherwise, it would be a moo-t point. Udderly useless.
September 2nd, 2007 - 1:44 pm
I still stand by what I’ve said Sue. (I’m about to run you through the wringer, but please understand that this is done out of compassion – THERE IS DENSITY TO BE CLEARED IN YOU.)
I’ve seen you learn from what I’ve said to you, I’ve seen you become more enlightened in the process.
You are getting into semantics with me, you are missing my meaning and sticking to the signposts.
What has every Buddha done once reaching Nirvana? Worked tirelessly to free other souls.
You tell me to feel, not think. I have been speaking to you with the language of feeling for the last 3 posts. But for some reason you are missing the meaning, and seeing the signposts.
I think I see the duality now – we both are trying to convince ourselves that we have reached “IT”. Why do we need to convince each other of this?
We are BOTH above the ceiling. Neither of us is above the other. A teacher teaches a teacher. I AM IN THE SAME PLACE THAT YOU ARE.
AND WE NEVER STOP LEARNING. BUT NIRVANA IS PART OF THE EQUATION OF ENLIGHTENMENT – LOOK AT THE REALITY, NOT THE WORD – “NIRVANA”.
Your words:
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“But you’ll find that out for yourself.”
“Let’s throw away our shovels, light up our Camels, sit on our asses, we have found the promised land.”
That’s simply been an excuse for laziness and justification for a heirarchy of preists and potentates.
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I have absolutely no idea where these ideas are coming from, you seem offended at the notion that I said that you were not fully enlightened. This has been the pattern every time, if I say something close to that, I feel an offended energy coming from you.
I’m going to come right out and say it, I’ve especially seen this when I post such a thing on this blog, rather than in an email to you.
I was running a blog before, and I felt the exact same way oftentimes when you posted on my blog to shake up my stubborn belief that I had reached “IT”.
Two sides of the same rubber band. After the post that really woke me up, you struggled that night thinking that you may have offended me or made me feel bad – NIRVANA IS NOT A STATE OF STRUGGLING – BUT YOU CLEARED DENSITY THAT NIGHT! And you cleared the other side of the duality out of my soul!
Now it’s my turn to be on the other side of the duality. I feel bad for having to tell you all of this, but YOU’RE JUST AS STUBBORN AS I AM!
I started off in posting this feeling offended myself, but now I feel happy that this duality has been identified.
Sue – You don’t have to be wonderwoman. You don’t have to make it better for everyone. The unity of mankind does not expressly hinge on your having found “IT”.
No one ever will, find “IT”. We are forever learning.
THERE IS NO CEILING. THERE IS NO CEILING. THERE IS NO CEILING.
Sue, PLEASE take this to heart. I know that you are basing your responses on density, because you are completely misunderstanding my words.
I do not like conflict, or arguments, or disagreements, at all, but I can feel your frustration and that you are slightly offended – I can feel it. Why do you tell me that I am operating only on the level of thought? THIS IS NOT TRUE.
You found my blog to shake up a stubborn man, now it’s my turn to shake up a stubborn woman.
I feel afraid that you may not understand. It’s my turn to be on that side of the rubber band. We are still learning.
Peace,
Joe
September 2nd, 2007 - 3:18 pm
I am reminded of a Start Trek movie. The one where Spock gets resurrected and his whatever back in his own being, instead of Dr. McCoy’s.
Spock is standing at a computer terminal, breezing by technical and abstract problems with ease, when the question pops up
“How do you feel?”
Which completely stumped him. Prideful feathers all roughed up, his Mother say, “You must not forget that you are part human, too.”
Joe, get out of your head. Pay attention not to that you fact that you feel but, WHAT you are feeling. You are feeling conflicted. I’m not. Not at all. And projecting your density instead of claiming it.
I’m simply not bowing at an abstract understanding and you’re all flustered by it. You’re not getting ‘it’ and it is ok that you’re not.
There is NO personal Intimacy with an abstract principal. It simply doesn’t have what it takes.
Lalalalala, fiddly dee, I can sit in bliss all day basking in the rays of eternity and STILL be impotent when it comes to creation on this plane of activity.
Never saw a buddhist monk pregnant, have you?
Creativity ain’t their bag.
They have no Passion for it.
Since they have symbolically cut themselves off from the waist down.
September 2nd, 2007 - 3:52 pm
Sue, why do you speak as though I’m a good “student” of yours, when it seems that I am behind in so many ways?
Why do you say that? I don’t understand this. Every step that is taken, one finds that there are 10 more steps ahead. Have I really taken that many steps?
Nirvana is said to be the acceptance of suffering; can you expound on your understanding of this idea?
I’ve seen documentaries on Taoist monks; they are truly compassionate human beings; What do you feel that the meaning of this is?
Can it be said that Buddhism is the culmination of the attempt to ‘achieve’ “deadness of feeling to suffering”? “Nirvana”?
If enlightenment itself is becoming something more than it was before, hence the burgeoning new paradigm, how is it changing? How did it exist before?
If enlightenment is the state of transformative creative awareness, can it be said that feeling is an integral part of this awareness, or should it be said that feeling produces the creation?
What does clearing density actually do? Can it be said that it purifies one’s spirit? Does this speak of the inherent notion that ultimately what we are as human beings is spirit-beings?
What is the shift which I’ve just experienced? What was the thicket that I was previously in?
In Taoist literature it’s said that “the sage inspects knowledge before accepting it, the fool accepts it without inspecting it” – How do you feel about this idea? How does it relate to achieving enlightenment?
Answer whichever questions you feel are relevant, I may still be trying to “think myself along the Path”.
I’ve begun my fast today, have you ever fasted before Sue? I’m curious.
-Joe
September 2nd, 2007 - 4:50 pm
Joe,
I don’t consider you my ‘student’ or otherwise. You are a GENUINE seeker on the path, asking me questions about what I have shared.
I don’t have any questions about what I’ve shared. I aleady Know it. That’s why I am sharing it.
Nor do I, in any way diminish any steps you have taken.
By all means, inspect all knowledge, to see if it is actually a Knowing or, merely someone else’s words. Inspect it for any ideas of seperation and judgment while we’re at it, too. For there we will find ‘karma’.
I speak in terms and concepts of creativity and creative will. We reap as we sow.
Compassionate or Sympathetic, Joe, which is it?
For Sympathy just sheds tears for karmic suffering, while genuine Compassion, heals the pain of it by illuminating its causes.
‘deadness to the feelings of suffering?”…eeeeeuuuuuuuww But I suppose if I didn’t understand its causes either, I’d try to turn a deaf ear, too, simply for the sake of my sanity.
I accept suffering as a choice. It’s what makes for good dramas. “The Divine Drama” is part of Buddhist philosophy, too.
Most of Humanity is emotionally addicted to drama. Ho hum, how uninventive. My play is a Comedy/adventure. I have no use nor value for drama.
It’s my Play of Consicousness. I can write it however I choose.
As all of us are free to do.
And if you desire to starve yourself of nutrition, go ahead, fast. Hit yourself with a whip, while you’re at it, if you think that will bring greater clarity. Enlightenment can’t be forced, even mentally.
Yes, I have gone without eating. When my body signaled it was releasing toxins. I simply listened to it. Most I eat on any day is about 1 cup, anyway.
I love you, Joe.
September 2nd, 2007 - 5:29 pm
I’m curious about your philosophy Sue; I recognize its validity and see that it’s true.
If people reap & sow according to the law of attraction, what is it that draws people to better circumstances? Can it be said that there is an overall positive nature in the world, which is always directing people to better circumstances? Would you term this nature as God, or Source, or “I am”?
Have you looked into Taoism very much? What did you think of what you did see of it? Do you feel like it has more merit to it than a philosophy such as buddhism?
I see what you mean about buddhism and the “divine drama” aspect of the philosophy. If you expect to find suffering in the world, suffering you will find. If people can’t live with themselves, their philosophy will reflect that.
Which religions would you say are the most beautiful, in terms of their philosophies? Is “the law of attraction” the fullness of your philosophy, or do you ascribe to additional ideas beyond or alongside this idea?
I’ve been fasting occasionally for health reasons – I have a pretty solid understanding of health within the ayurvedic framework of thought – a very holistic medical philosophy – one can have imbalances of what could most closely be termed as certain ‘humors’ in the body – called vata, kapha, and pitta.
Imbalances of kapha manifest as mucous in the intestines and elsewhere. The best treatment for mucous in the intestines is fasting – I had a mucocele in my appendix a couple of years ago, solid mucous all through it – I fasted for 18 hours and a couple days later that problem was solved.
Vata/kapha/pitta imbalances can be associated with stuck feelings, energy problems (“chi”/Chakra energy), and past experiences which individuals haven’t accepted fully.
I’m pretty knowledgable about medical issues, within the framework of some nonconventional healing methods/schools of thought.
I’m fasting because my body was telling me to!
Clarity does come from fasting, I recognize this – without all of the energy that your body puts into digestion being put into it, you achieve a certain spiritual clarity – just like meditation or anything else that would do so. But I don’t expect that any form of self-punishment or goading can bring about anything positive.
Sue, really, I barely know you at this point on a personal level, even if I do know you on a spiritual level. How many people do you know in your life on a personal level, and a spiritual level, at the same time? Do you find that the internet provides much more room for discussion of spiritual ideas?
But Sue this I’m most curious about – do you know people who are as enlightened as you are? And what would you say is the most important element of searching for enlightenment? What are the absolutely essential elements to the process? If you only answer this question, I will be happy!
I love you too Sue, even if I hardly know you!
September 2nd, 2007 - 7:52 pm
It’s not about contrast and compare, Joe. It’s not a competition. There are no rewards, no ‘special’ prizes, or coming in ’1st’. No penalities, no recriminations, no judgments, for ‘coming in’ last.
For we are all One.
Of One Mind.
Of One Soul.
Of One Karma…
and each does our best to carry what we are able and heal what we are able.
Our ‘karma’ is not ‘ours’ personally, it is our drop of the collective that we volunteered to carry. In the Hopes of Healing.
Succiently I’d say that Enlightenment is our Soul’s Passion for Self Expression. It is an inner journey, fueled by inner fire.
I’ll try this tack…
It isn’t a question of there being more to Infinity, Infinity is Infinite. Always has been and always will be by the definition of Infinity. It’s a question of how much of this Infinite Nature is incarnated and embodied.
This shift is a progression of Ages. Mankind is going from one stage of spiritual development to another. As the Earth has changed in resonance, growing higher in vibration and harmonics, it has become possible to ground, integrate and anchor, another level of understanding.
We may not think our resonance is much in the way of outstanding to look at us on the surface. However, peel away the mask of surface appearance and EVERYONE in the world imagines ourselves to be ‘good’.
We ALL desire to Be ‘good’. EVERYBODY.
We simply have been taught, many different definitions of what ‘good’ Is. That’s all.
I’m cutting to the chase and saying, forget ‘good’, Be Loving.
Now if your body is signaling to stay away from food, then it is Loving to listen. But many of us practice techniques handed down through the ages born of self judgment, with our bodies to blame for what most of the judging is about.
One group in Colorado 10 years ago, practiced the techinique of drilling a hole in their heads the size of a quarter to let more light in. The Dr. who performed the surgeries on Willing patients, was being sued.
I’ll start with 7 chakras. The next set of 7 are like those same notes sung an octave higher. The next 7 after that, an octave higher then that. And so on and so on and so on.
It’s simply experiencing Creativity from all possible perspectives.
There is Acceptance and at Peace with Suffering & Karma. Then there is Transmuting it and Transcending it, so that the path of Dharma may be trod.
Many throughout our World have been ‘holding energy places’. Like anchors, waiting for the moment consciousness started moving. The best of the best for the past 2000 years. A cycle. And we’ve just past through a spiritual winter. Spring is in the air! And like everything else in nature, we’re adding nother layer of buds to our Self expressions.
Climbing and standing on the backs of all those of us who have gone before, we have managed to grasp another level.
Now those that played the role of ‘place holders’, may move on and expand, just like Humanity as a Whole is moving on and expanding.
It is an Age of Wisdom pouring forth, Understanding with it. Because we don’t have to Tolerate and Accept Suffering once we know the causes of it.
Of those who share my life with me, they understand. My daughter, only 13, understands the least but that’s 13 for you. It is not necessary I communidacate through intelligence. Sometimes I can convey the most, not using any.
You know you’re a Bull and the only ones who aren’t going to feel intimidated by the beam of your Light, are other bulls. I communicate with you according to the language you express yourself in. Intelligence…mental.
Everything is relative. Once we expand, compared to where we ‘were’, we’re a l o n g way from ‘there’. No matter where ‘here’ Is.
There’s a dominance of ‘yellow’ about you. You might find it interesting imagining ‘pink’ and ‘green’ to balance and harmonize with it. And blend a bit more violet into the dark blue, for a truer indigo.
Self Forgiveness is like for giving myself for scrunching my toes. But that doesn’t mean I’m going to stop at that. I’m going to heal the wound.
That’s what is ‘new’ about the ‘new’.
It’s healing the wounds of ‘karma’ by transcending it altogether. That’s ALL together.
September 2nd, 2007 - 8:47 pm
Everything that you’ve said resonates Sue; It’s easier to stop hanging out in a china shop than it is to change yourself into something you’re not – the beauty is that you leave the shop by becoming more yourself, and therefore changing your locale.
I’ve met another Taurus recently, we connected instantly – honestly, that’s rare for me. Now I know why.
I’m pretty tired so I’m going to go to bed soon, but one more thing – I’ve been taking a closer look at the “Intermediate Studies of the Human Aura” book that I have.
It spoke about the ‘violet flame’ – I looked up some web pages about it, invoking it, etc.
The book that I read also had some pointers as to the likely nature of my aura.
I meditated and invoked the flame – could see it around me, varying depending on the level of its intensity which was mustered – reds, oranges, yellows, some black even, passed through the flame – lots of yellow/orange. The red was sympathy (not compassion), I’m not sure what the yellow/orange were. The black, I think just stagnation.
I’ve had ‘spiritual sight’ to some degree for a couple of years now, perception of the “Path” before me, but nothing like this.
My higher chakras are doing quite nicely, but my lower are in quite a state of ‘disrepair’. From what that book said, the violet flame can remediate this.
“This is the strangest life I’ve ever lived” – not so bad though. What a ride!
Good night Sue, it’s been a day for sure, spiritual counseling 101!
Until later,
Joe
September 3rd, 2007 - 8:53 am
Well i have to say well done here to us all!! we are all on the same page coming from different angles and also from between the lines!!
Signposts im cutting some down with my chainsaw!! Source is us the sign posts are the mystery teachings but even they can not tell you how to connect with all that is they can only steer you in the general direction.. Ressurection yes indeed i feel it from the inside out. Thinking that one is higher or lower than another is an indicator that one has not felt this truth and is in judgement of where oneself is on the path in relation to those they see as higher because they have travelled further .. The trith is just because you have travelled further does not mean you are better or of any more value. Those are old male domination patterns or the old paradigm..
Buddhism has like any other teaching become diluted and altered by 2000 odd yrs of mankinds adding to the text.. Take sacred geometry a amn called drunvalo melchizedek (google him ) found that when he went to tibet and showed the monks the flower of life pattern that they were delighted and got out all of their pictures of mandalas .. He showed them ( bearing in mind he is a math guy not a buddhist ) and showed them how they were all the same pattern expressed by the flower of life that is to say that the flower of life can be shaded to make millions of different designs that all fit within this 19 circle flower of life and make up all of the tibetan mandalas.. Theywere amazed because the knowledge had been lost even though it was there all along.. The flower of life has every shape known to man embedded in it and leonardo da vincis famous man with outstretched arms is another expression of this.. All planet sie ratios cell walls atoms nuclei all fit within the geometry of this pattern.. I believe that the giving up desire part of buddhism is a missing the point teaching.. To give up desire is in of itself a desire if you think of it..
I believe that this teaching was about giving up looking for happiness by looking in the material world and was infact a sign post to guide us to our inner worlds..
desire is the mother of creation else we would not be here because the all that is would not have bothered to create us of desire was not the intention that brought us into being..
Sue Ann i feel you and i can see what you are trying to get accross to joe.. Joe If you feel that sue ann is reflecting some anger at you ( which i dont feel ) I suugest respectfully that you are used to being guided by a teacher and somewhere you have an expectation of not coming up to the grade somewhere Sue has not ever reflected anger to me and believe me i am good at getting folk to do that.. Any anger or feelings you feel are coming to you are and can only be reflections of energy you put out in the first place. except Sue has not reflected it directly by expressing it in any way it has simply returned to you like unopened mail.
Sorry if i sound blunt i mean this in the greatest of joy and peace. This is the block you feel in your crown it is self judgement do not worry it will pass.
allow yourself to flow into the expansion or rather relax and love that part of yourself unconditionally by using your imagination..
From my personal experience i can tell you it works from there you will be a functioning autonomous being that none can ever have a hold on. |Source becomes all you need.
Historically when a soul became enlightened they went out of incarnation for the most part because they would have affected the greater part of humanitys free will to stay in darker times..
Now that is changed because the greater part of humanity is seeking higher not descending lower ( planes of reality) So we come to show how we create i n a loving way, free from boundaries or controls so we get to have our cake and eat it. No more guilt about having while others do not because we now know that others create their own lives utterly while the great all that is smiles and grants our wishes knowing that we are infinite beings and anything we dont like we can create anew.. Isnt that beautiful ? How cool is that ? all of a sudden the world looks a far easier place to be in..
We can say here brother are you ready to free yourself of them chains ? follow me and observe ..
this is the meaning of jesus teaching ” all this so shall you do and more ”
This is why all the old teachings are being updated and revealed again (those that were lost ) It is because we are raising infrequency day by day that we are remembering that which was lost,as in my example of the flower of life earlier in the post.. It is so we can further them and use our divine status to create peace on earth…..
Blessed we are… i love you
September 3rd, 2007 - 8:53 am
Hi Sue,
I put in a comment last night but my computer was going wonky for a bit there.
It’s interesting that you mention the colors, as I have just found awareness of the concept of the ‘violet flame’ – I have been studying into auras, etc in that book that I told you about earlier, by Djwal Kul. It mentioned meditation on the violet flame.
Have you heard of this? Interestingly, I find that I can perceive the spiritual colors which you are talking about, as I meditate on the violet flame. I see them leaving my being, etc.
I have had spiritual sight in the past, but more in the realm of seeing the ‘Path’ of Taoism, and without any semblance of color involved.
Yes, I do communicate through mental intelligence oftentimes; quite mental really. Sometimes for people an abstraction is the only way to explain. If you don’t have the full picture, you can only paint in ‘halves’, in incompletes. Does this make sense?
Truly the completeness of one’s own being defines the completeness of their world. But what a strange world we live in really!
Chakras, creating your own world, etc – who would think that these could be true realities, with the notions of science, proof before faith, denial of ‘subjective’ experience, rigid dogmatic religious ideas, etc, running through our heads?
It’s easy to think that there is no real solid, grounded reality which we all share – everyone in their own little creation, each an abstraction, each somehow depending on separation to attempt to feel whole.
Maybe it’s easier for some to dwell in an abstraction, which ultimately they feel in some way they have full control over, than it is to exist in the anchoring ‘base’ reality, which they in fact themselves do not completely control, and which enables all of our own creationary realities to have their being.
What I mean in referring to this ‘base reality’ – I suppose I’m speaking about the new paradigm – but each overall paradigm which humanity as a whole has lived in has had some constants throughout them – we each have chakras, we are in some ways either realized or unrealized or partly realized as people, etc.
So there are constants, truths which define this base reality – but I had been living in an abstraction, trying to have domain over my own reality – probably a security thing, a need to control my existence.
I think in very broad terms, and so I define myself in some way by the very way that existence as a whole is defined. My abstractions therefore were basically ‘models of existence’ – because I think in very broad terms, I needed to know where I fit into that existence.
Working with only part of oneself, therefore working with only part of the overall picture, one can only work within the realm of abstractions.
No doubt you’ll tell me now Sue that I’m in a thicket again!
Or maybe not. But I’m telling you this so that you can see the other side of the coin in this. You’ve seen the side where I was trying to prove the abstraction, but here is the other side – the side that shows why I was trying to prove it.
I am a bull, you’re right. Is there any way to un-intimidate? I do get along with other Taurus’ well. Very, very well – we see the fire in one another – I met a spiritual Taurus the other day, it’s amazing the kind of connection that can be formed within that blaze of intensity.
But it’s not a very happy thing to only really connect with 1/12th of humanity; is it possible to transcend this notion?
Take care Sue, I know I’ve had you working overtime on this succession of comments, but I think you understand. I just want to be free from the abstractions. The part, suffering apart, because it is not the whole.
-Joe
September 3rd, 2007 - 10:56 am
I’ve done a bit of research on auras – maybe I’m wrong about seeing the colors “leave my being”.
I understand that the violet flame purifies a person’s aura; But I definitely have a lot to learn in these aspects.
Just wanted to clear that up. Later!
September 3rd, 2007 - 11:17 am
{{{Joe}}}
BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO!
You made it OUT of the thicket!
You connected with the raw emotions of why you went in. You now have POWER over those emotions, through understanding their cause.
The generation I am part of, didn’t/haven’t known much in the way of emotional coping skills other then to supress and repress, disciplined through fear to do just that. Part of the ‘uptight’ Victorian era stuff, where ‘one’ must conduct ‘oneself’ in a ‘reserved’ sort of manner.
From this repressed uptightness, our parenting skills expressed themselves through our behavior to ‘save’ and ‘protect’ our children from any of the unpleasantries of life. Only Smiley faces, never any Frowney ones.
Frowney face must mean parent is a ‘bad’ parent, so parent then proceeeds to jump through hoops of the child’s device, just to ‘prove’ their love. The ‘child’ thens becomes a tyrant, expecting their emotions to be catered to. OR…is left alone to their own devices, with TV, video games and computers to relate to.
No personal intimacy of any kind, since there haven’t been any ‘persons’ around on a daily basis, whose primary Value, was relating to the children and helping the children learn how to relate to the world.
It costs so much to live, that our children have paid the price, Emotionally. Nurtured through electronics or some public figure at a ratio of at least 20:1. In terms of personal attention, our children have been starved.
And none of the toys, the trinkets, the bells, the whistles and all the sparkley gadgets, make up for it.
And Joe, you’re part of that generation. Your Mom worked. Most likely worked long hours. Then came home and took care of you and her family. Cooking, cleaning, laundry, medic, counselor, the jobs of Mother are endless.
No matter how hard both Mom & Dad worked, they were most likely energetcially exhausted most of the time. Either that, or wound up on stimulants like coffee and ‘energy’ drinks.
We can keep going in terms of mentally this way but then, our mental process becomes suspect simply because we’re not in touch or connected with the emotions driving us. It becomes a race to stay distanced.
Like a wave crashing itself upon rocks, you kept coming. I knew then, this was your way to break through some kind of blockage, so I played the role asked of me. The rocks.
And you did break through whatever barrier you had rected within you, for you are out of the thicket and back in touch with your feelings.
I like your analogy. We are at our core, the sum total of the aspects represented by the 12 signs. Notice the Bull’s horns turn inward, like a crescent moon. The horns protect the sensitivity of the third eye. And it’s this sensitivity that we cannot attain mentally. We have to relax into it.
As for the violet ray, it is the ‘new paradigms’ dispensation. There’s a ‘new’ dispensation every 2000 years. The last one, the one we’re coming out of, was of the 6th ray. Every 24,000 to 26,000 years, we step up an ‘octave’ in Expression. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7. With “7″, tying 1-6 together. This will be followed by a ’1′, which starts another cycle, 2000 years hence.
The violet ray, the 7th ray represents Freedom, for it is the ray of Self Forgiveness. It is the Divine Spiritual Alchemy which purifies, transmutes, redeems and uplifts us. It is for giving.
It is for giving to ourselves.
And it is for giving to others, so that we may realize what we have. Forgiveness is a Divine Gift. And is proof of our Divinity in action.
The violet ray is what neutralizes the charge of
negative (-).
And as in all the other rays, these are FEELINGS.
Without them, our lives have no color.
SMILES
Bravo Joe! You made it.
September 3rd, 2007 - 11:27 am
At first sometimes we’ll see colors. Then we feel them. Each color is an expression of a Divine Gift.
The three fold flame of our Sacred Heart has three primary colors. Blue. Pink. Yellow. 1. 2. 3.
4= 1 + 2, 5= 1+3, 6= 2+3, 7=1+2+3.
….oh nevermind….i’ll write a post with all of them.
grinning…
September 3rd, 2007 - 12:10 pm
Hi Jope i meant to adree your message to me heres what i came to, To channel energy or source is to imply that it was not there in the first place. To allow something in means that it has to not be there in the first place in order for it to be allowed in. And i have been running around like a headless chicken trying to run to a new place where there is work when i need to be basd where i am allready,
I nearly ran away when i need to just relax into it and await the circumstances alignment..
Well done on coming out of the thicket Joe you did it ..Cool. Im gonna send energy into my housing situation because i have decided to stay if i go away im substituting one frying pan for another..
I have perfect feeling image of where i would like to be to fullfill my dream. I have been flowing and i keep getting the sense that i dont have to focus on the details there is a blue print i came with so im activating that now..
thanks for the pointers beautiful people i will explain more later as i realise it..
thanks i know what i must do ..nothing untill the inner push takes me with the stream.. bless the death of this headless chicken …gotta catch a ferry follow the river downstream. flow down to the oceans mouth of my dream…….
blessed be…
September 3rd, 2007 - 12:25 pm
{{{dean}}}
You’ve just set us up for the next stage of Life: Baptism….
I will proceed to go write about that, as well as, Joe’s inspiration for the 12 rays of expression.
Here I go…down the rabbit hole again. Better go change my slippers, from piggys to rabbits. Might as well enjoy wearing my rabbit slippers for a while anyway. We’re getting ready to move into our remodeled property to enjoy it for a while before we sell it. If I wear my rabbit slippers out there, chances are I’d get my foot shot off.
Here I go!
grinning…
September 3rd, 2007 - 2:39 pm
I have a question for you {{{Joe}}}
Cheshire cat smile…(i’m already down the hole)
If right at the first, I had responded with:
“You’re Right, Joe. I’m just stupid, thank you for pointing this out to me.”
If I had dissolved like a castle in the sand when a big waves comes in…
Where would you be Now?
September 3rd, 2007 - 3:59 pm
You’ve presented me with a kind of riddle Sue, I don’t know if you realize this though. In buddhist philosophy this kind of thing is called a “zen koan”.
For me, the answer is paradoxical. Seeking the answer to a paradox is what frees one from the density involved.
I’ve “channeled” such koans in my spiritual practice at times, they’ve cleared density for me in the past.
It’s a strange thing, being able to write a letter to oneself; it’s part of my own faith in “Source”, or the overarching creative force of the world. I’ve never told anyone about this before. Only kept it to myself.
Somehow I think you can see that I really am a pushover Sue. When it comes to the kinds of things that I sometimes need to say to people, which can completely alter their perceptions of me as a person, in a bad way, because of density which they possess, I can’t bring myself to say what needs to be said.
I can risk my life on a daily basis zooming around town on my bicycle, never really fearing almost getting hit by some random motorist in a hurry, even if it does almost happen – there’s no fear there. I once ran across some railroad tracks, hoping to catch a bus, thinking that the oncoming train was 300 feet back – it missed me by about 10 feet, and was going probably 60mph. But I wasn’t scared. I just thought “I’m glad to be alive.” But I know that my time will come when it will come, and no amount of worry or fear about that can be helpful to anything.
But I can’t risk facing the negative energy of humanity. It hits me somewhere deep inside, somewhere that I can’t defend. If I even hear someone gossip about me, or really anyone else, in the other room, just a small word, it strikes me at my core.
So when there are big things to say, which some people wouldn’t want to face, I can’t bear to draw their possible ire.
Does this make me a coward? Does it make me weak? Or does it just make me vulnerable?
You’ve done me a great service Sue, and I am truly grateful for it. But right now I find it impossible to return the favor where it counts most – out in the world.
Somehow I am defenseless from density (spear energy). It feels like oblivion to me.
I feel comfortable talking about this here, because it is essentially a safe place to discuss such things. You’ve made it that way Sue, and you’ve done it with grit, as much as with love. This is the purpose of experiencing density states/suffering first, and freedom second. We can’t heal what we haven’t ourselves been wounded by.
“Oh man.” It’s something which everyone needs to say with complete honesty, just once, and then there would be understanding in the world. But that’s not the way it is here. That’s why we have to say “oh man.”
And onward we travel, seeking refuge from the storms which are within ourselves, and which are therefore in the world’s consciousness.
“Oh man.”
So your words are a koan to me Sue, probably not what you expected, but such is the nature of transformation.
Where is Wonderland?
September 3rd, 2007 - 4:47 pm
No Dear, you’re not a coward. Nor are you especially weak, you have a strong Will. You can focus a LOT of it’s intensity of Willpower.
It isn’t that I don’t CARE about someone else’s ire. It’s simply that it’s not about me.
It’s not about what people think of me. And it’s not about how people feel about me.
It’s not about me.
I’m fine. I’m ‘OK’.
My cup is so full it runs over.
So I can Be an honest person and so can everyone else around me.
All you did was try to charge, with me refusing to take any credit. rofl
It wasn’t my lesser ego talking when I said I’d been through the crucifixion, already. Whatever lessor ego I had left at that time, was obliderated, as Spirit descended and I crashed and burned.
It was emotionally excruciating, like having a breakdown. It felt like part of me had died, as I finally let go of all my earthly attachments.
Yes, I know the densities. I mention another, whose actions 2000 years ago set us up to be able to stake this step as a whole, today. I mention Joshua, or ‘Jesus’. That was a heck of a lot more density thrown at him AND transmuted, then you or I will likely ever encounter.
Be Loving with yourself, Joe. That’s what the pink is for!
September 3rd, 2007 - 5:08 pm
“All you did was try to charge, with me refusing to take any credit.”
“It was emotionally excruciating, like having a breakdown. It felt like part of me had died, as I finally let go of all my earthly attachments.”
“Whatever lessor ego I had left at that time, was obliderated, as Spirit descended and I crashed and burned.”
I suppose in a way we crucify ourselves. I’m not afraid of the next world, but I am attached to this world. So I hold on to really the only thing that anyone owns, themself.
The excruciation is the pressure of the squeeze that we have on our little self, yes?
I’ve already let go of the attachments of possessions, greed, etc. But oneself – it’s not easy to let go of oneself.
I hold onto my own image, and so I feel the intense pressure of my own will, I feel the squeeze.
Buddhism had it right, but wrong. Nihilism to relieve suffering – obliteration of self; instead of the creation of new self to relieve suffering. It was created about 2,500 years ago, yes? Or was it longer ago?
7 colors, 7 chakras – Now the creation is an octave at a time?
I like your sense of humor Sue, but I’ve never liked pink! Maybe it’s the bull in me. If I face off with everyone I see, I’m not going to find much happiness in the world.
Somehow I’m still holding on.
September 3rd, 2007 - 5:12 pm
You know Sue, in an octave, depending on the key, 7 of 12 possible notes are taken to create the octave. What about the other 5 notes?
September 3rd, 2007 - 6:35 pm
By the time we reach this phase, we have been prepared along the way. It’s a gradual transference of Identity from a little i, to big I, created through successive stages of Self Realization, followed by Self Acceptance and Self Recognition.
It’s only when we’re ready to wear the robes, that they are placed on our shoulders. It’s the ole’ camel through the eye of the needle thingie.
If you don’t like pink, then try forest green or magenta.
Smiles
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